Jefferson, and to a large degree the rest of the Founders, were Deists. JBP, I gather, isn't.

Jefferson's bible was for the natives in an attempt to help with cultural understanding

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@Goodwood of Dank™ Yeah. Jefferson is an atheist.

He just calls his atheism "Christianity".

No, he was a deist. Thomas Paine was a legit atheist.

Sorry, I meant to type "Peterson", not Jefferson.

A deist is not a theist, nor is he an atheist.

Jordan Peterson is an atheist?

*[citation needed]*

Yeah, he his. But he calls himself Christian. He has defined Christian as a person with morals.

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He also believes in "God" but has redefined "God" as truth or meaning.

So did Aquinas.

Ofc I'm an atheist myself, and disagree with his notions of Christianity.

When you ask his for definitions or his opinions, you always ask for **LITERAL** truth.

Does he believe in **LITERAL** resurrection of Jesus.

He's an agnostic atheist.

@ETBrooD I disagree with your defenition of socialism and I disagree with your , imo, very limited view on what governments do and how they function. Socialism, if I may offer another defenition, is broadly speaking a doctrine that calls for the social/public ownership of the means of production. 'Redistribution' is an effect, not a core point within socialism. Furthermore, to say that any government that redistributes wealth is socialist, is afaic, ignorant of history. Goverments long before 'socialism' redistributed wealth and were not socialist in nature. Unless you consider all forms of government to be 'socialist', in which case the term 'socialism' is so diluted it becomes useless to describe anything.

He seems to have more in common with certain Christian denominations than out and out agnostic atheists, tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWuYSo-nL08

@Αγωνιζῆς If you disagree with "my" definition of socialism, then you disagree with the bascics of the most commonly explained definition in the dictionary. In that case a discussion between us is useless.

meh, so be it then😂

JBP is an agnostic who likes the Bible a lot

but *technically* not a Christian

So culturally Christian that it hurts.

By some denominations of Christian he is basically just one with extra steps.

Or fewer, really.

he can't be a Christian if he's agnostic

also

pretty sure he doesn't pray or anything lol

still, I'd say he's more Christian than a lot of Christians these days

and in the places that count the most to boot

If he is atleast half as smart as people think he is, he came to the conclusion that god is a neceseary lie to keep his ideal of Christian culture and civilization alive.

that would be in line with his debate with same harris

"a good lie"

"So culturally Christian that it hurts."
Porch atheist, I say.

Porch atheism is everywhere. Cuck atheism.

Isn't Dave Cullen suddenly going down a similar route?

Yeah.

Basically all of atheism are either commies or self-hating ones. It's either SJW or Molyneux.