Message from @ETBrooD
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Yet anything less, and he'd not be able to afford to live
The problem is not welfare
The problem is welfare, because the fact that it exists makes it grow into a monster
It can't not grow
It's in its nature to grow beyond reasonable measures
And you can't not have welfare because otherwise you have people dying and turning to crime
The reason why you need welfare is because there are bad people out there who will fuck up the streets if they don't receive welfare
It's pure and simple extortion
Thats an absurdly reductionist view
Lets be real about this, it's not altruism, it's straight up theft
Yeah reductionist my ass, I was in the welfare program long enough
I've seen the people, talked to them, I know these pieces of shit
Then UBI is a great solution
No it's not
At best it will all stay as bad as things are right now
It cannot, by design, be any better
It can
And I can tell you why
By moving the tax-free allowances, welfare, and pensions to UBI, you create a single system without any complications - not only is it the simplest and cheapest system to administer, it also removes any possibility that these three groups can use the other as a political hammer to beat each over over the head with - everyone's wellbeing is tied to that one benefit - reducing it harms everyone, increasing it help everyone
It eliminates welfare fraud by definition
lol, how can it be welfare fraud by design?
By that argument, all tax-free allowances are tax fraud by design
Because it can't possibly be anything else, what do you think where money comes from?
All tax-banding is tax-fraud by design
Does it grow on trees?
Money come from taxation
No, wrong wrong wrong
Money is created by the workers and the entrepreneurs
Yes. UBI does not stop this
No one else creates money
UBI interferes with that process
It doesn't
Yes it does, because people can comfortably live off of it
No
And so they will
If people can comfortably live off UBI, then it's set too high
Dude
It's UNIVERSAL
And?
It MUST be too high