look they are a threat to our way of life and are living in parallel society's with different laws, etc so no they should not be here, i mean Britain is already going through a cultural crisis and the Muslims are just making it worse

The point is then that the difference doesn't even matter in the end. You're completely free to not have people take your stuff involuntarily for redistribution ... you fucking leave to a place where they don't do it.

That sounds like a different argument

If I have the definitions wrong, that's one argument, but if the definitions somehow don't matter, that's another argument

So pls pick one and tell me where I have a misunderstanding

Because it supersedes that shitflingfest I read above.

I thought definitions come first? Now they don't?

Let's start with this exchange:

@Eccles not all redistribution of wealth is socialism
@ETBrooD wrong

Exhibit A:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_economy

Two things can be true at the same time

I can be right, and a palace economy can be socialism

Socialism is an umbrella term for all systems that function the same as socialism does

cant argue with that logic😂

A monarchy for example falls under socialism

Exhibit B:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy

good grief, is he still going?

Monarchy isn't even an economic system, what the fuck?

How retarded are you, exactly?

A gift economy is not socialism, as the wealth is not redistributed

You keep saying I'm retarded, I hear no argument

Do you know how to argue honestly?

well, seems to me you use different definitions of 'redistribution' tbh

https://gyazo.com/a10b4c7a001b28e98479e66fd960c853

you may or may not be retarded, but if you are coming from a starting point of "any kind of taxation is redistribution of wealth - therefore socialism", then it's not conducive to discussing the relative merits of UBI, is it?

It even mentions taxation as an example of redistribution

It is.

Taxes are socialism?

Apparently

Then, if redistribution of wealth is one of the two pillars of socialism, taxes must fall under that pillar, and are therefore socialism

What if you just tax but don't do anything with the money

Your linguistical gymnastics surpasses that of the SJW.

I think you're butthurt

Can be skip the childish exchanges? It's boring

>Can be skip the childish exchanges? It's boring

Why the fuck are you here, then?

Oh I was hoping for an honest, productive debate

ET, you don't seem to comprehend that all of these concepts overlap with each other

You're not offering that, so I think I'm no longer interested in what you have to say

I comprehend perfectly fine @Eccles tyvm

>Oh I was hoping for an honest, productive debate
>Discord server

#IAMVERYSMART

Yes, ET, you comprehend so well that now basically all welfare and taxation is off the table because they're socialism according to you

Yeah, people come here to have productive debates