Message from @Weez
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Who decides who has the best arguments?
The voters.
Then that's a power imbalance
How so? Everyone can vote equally?
Because the losers are not "morally wrong", they just lose
For example
It's the most simple example, but it also happens on a large scale unless tempered
Two wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner
Clearly the sheep is going to lose
This is the fundamental flaw of a democratic system, it doesn't change anything about a power imbalance, in fact it brings it out
I understand what you mean, you can use different methods of voting and election to achieve as much equality as possible
In my view, that would be better than the current system. Even if it’s not 100% perfect.
My goal is to minimise that inequality as much as possible.
Even if I don’t achieve 100% equality, it doesn’t matter. As long as we’re closer to it, that’s fine.
The way I see it, the solution to this problem lies in an anti-democratic approach
Democracy must be tempered, not absolute
Then the problem is, how do people get elected to govern themselves?
Raffle?
For example, the solution of the wolves and the sheep lies in letting the sheep have guns so if they lose the vote they can kill the wolves
Which means the wolves won't vote to eat the sheep
That's an eternal struggle, governance is inevitable (as demonstrated by history)
Injustice, inequality, imbalance, and suffering as a result, it's part of life
But surely we can try minimise those injustices, inequality, imbalance and suffering 😉
For me it's about mitigating the cost on a moral individualistic level, not on a collective level
Well
What's the difference between two people dying or one person dying?
The utilitarian answer is: it's twice the cost because two is twice than one
My answer: no difference
Some people misunderstand what I mean by this
So let me explain
Please do
We can either place value on life, or we don't. If we place value on life, we can do this either by numbers of lives, or by the simple distinction between life and death.
Ergo we can say death is terrible just because it's death, or we can say death is more or less terrible depending on how many people die.
Fuck, I want to continue this, but I need to head out..
I only make a distinction between life and death, not between numbers of dead people.
Every single death is bad. More dead people are not more bad, they're just equally bad. It doesn't add up, it stays level.
so killing 1 baby is equal to killing a hundred?🤔
That’s what I was just typing
Yes, in my opinion it's the same. If you kill one, you could just as well kill a hundred, so you should be tried the same either way.
bruh
thats... an intresting way of looking at things