Message from @Weez
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Russia is no where near the economic power it once was anyway. It's all show and very little muscle compared to the rest of the world. China is the real threat in a nuclear war.
There won't ever be a nuclear war
Lmao
Well, that's debateable. Regimes can become pretty suicidal if they are desperate.
Yeah world powers want to rule the planet not blow it up
Give pictures 😩
Their most recent tests ended with nuclear fallout over their cities, with spikes in radiation in Sweden.
awww blow it up wat cooler
Well, it's a simple matter of self-interest, Flavius.
As much as the Communists espouse collectivist ideology, self-preservation exists irrespective of their conjecture.
Arguably, it is self-interest driving their leadership forward anyway.
The possibility of total war isn't there today. Thus they will not be used.
Of course not.
The only way I see it being used is via an asymmetrical threat/adversary.
That doesn't mean such Individual(s) can't be backed by a foreign power, however.
So, keep that in mind.
Ok, what would happen if Russia did the equivalent of pearl harbour? Would the US respond with conventional warfare? Smaller missiles? Because they could flatten Russia in that department too, leaving Putin with the option of nuclear war vs being deposed and probably killed.
"if Russia did the equivalent of pearl harbour"
They wouldn't.
That's the most likely use scenario to occur, which is rather unfortunate as the outcome won't be what they expect, given it'd still end up with their annihilation.
But..
It depends on what happened
If nuclear weapons were used, then the US would likely retaliate with the same
If it were a conventional attack, then the US would do the same
Japan did. Japan attacked an enemy it knew it could not ever hope to defeat. and it did so unprovoked.
it doesn't have to be rational
Call in NATO and begin an air-war
That is, my reference to using an asymmetrical means of payload delivery, whether through a state-sponsored organization of terror or some loose assets of a foreign power.
Japan attacking the US WAS rational.
in what possible way LOL
Right.
They thought they could win with Pearl Harbor
They lost because carriers where not there
If Russia attacked the US using a nuke the US has enough forces throughout the globe, along with NATO forces, and the immediate support of the UN to wipe Russia off the face of the Earth with in a matter of weeks.
Japan hoped to crush the us navy with an preemptive strike.
It was a gamble
There won't be unconventional responses to conventional attacks, strictly speaking in terms of nuclear warfare.
Russia's only hope is nukes in that scenario and it wouldn't entertain it.
And japan lost