Message from @Weez

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2019-09-10 18:39:06 UTC  

And they know this, a primary reason they wouldn't engage in the former action to begin with.

2019-09-10 18:39:07 UTC  

Their logical choice would be a terrorist attack through surrogates or a land grab.

2019-09-10 18:39:09 UTC  

They simply failed to do that.

2019-09-10 18:39:23 UTC  

Indeed, Wizard, exactly what I referenced earlier as asymmetrical conflict.

2019-09-10 18:39:23 UTC  

Russia could easily do either of those with low blow back.

2019-09-10 18:39:31 UTC  

They do it all the time.

2019-09-10 18:39:36 UTC  

Just look at how we handled 9/11.

2019-09-10 18:39:41 UTC  

The target was battleships and more importantly the carriers which where not there

2019-09-10 18:39:53 UTC  

Like FDR planned it <:hyperthink:462282519883284480>

2019-09-10 18:39:54 UTC  

Hush-hush; no war with the Federation and let them have their economic recovery.

2019-09-10 18:40:39 UTC  

8 BB designated ships

2019-09-10 18:40:52 UTC  

2 CA

2019-09-10 18:40:58 UTC  

6 CL

2019-09-10 18:41:01 UTC  

That it was, @jacovich stabs.

2019-09-10 18:41:14 UTC  

China would probably be the only country to sustain an operation large enough to equal a modern pearl harbor.

2019-09-10 18:42:08 UTC  

My uncle commanded the ship that destroyed the Kirishima. 😉

2019-09-10 18:42:19 UTC  

*Pulls out the family history book*

2019-09-10 18:43:04 UTC  

Yeah no carriers as far as can tell

2019-09-10 18:43:15 UTC  

They were all moved away.

2019-09-10 18:43:28 UTC  

Lots of battleships

2019-09-10 18:44:03 UTC  

Battleships where becoming outdated by that time

2019-09-10 18:44:34 UTC  

<:trumpepe:588019356215279642>

2019-09-10 18:45:19 UTC  

Lets say you manage to wipe out the entirety of the US navy and for the sake of argument the US can't create anymore ships.
It still doesn't look even remotely attractive for Japan to enter into war with a superpower like the US. There's just no way in hell they would have come out on top.

2019-09-10 18:45:30 UTC  

What’s name of that squadron of destroyers and escort carriers that took on a battleship group lead by the “biggest battleship ever built”?

2019-09-10 18:46:14 UTC  

That's an absurd scenario, Jaco.

2019-09-10 18:46:53 UTC  

Right, because the japanese would never have been able to cripple their navy anyway so pearl harbour was irrational.

2019-09-10 18:47:02 UTC  

It does if you can secure your heavily utilized supply routes..

2019-09-10 18:47:21 UTC  

And you can remove a power from your sphere of influence

2019-09-10 18:47:24 UTC  

Then simply sue for peace..

2019-09-10 18:49:58 UTC  

It was the last clash of the dreadnought class of ships.

2019-09-10 18:51:05 UTC  

The Japanese were stuck on a path of expansion to fuel their growing economy, war was inevitable @jacovich stabs

2019-09-10 18:51:07 UTC  
2019-09-10 18:51:47 UTC  

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/70000-ton-disaster-how-biggest-battleship-ever-built-committed-suicide-51932
```At 0800 hours on April 7, scout planes from Admiral Mitscher’s Fast Carrier Force, or Task Force 58, located Yamato, still only halfway to Okinawa. Mitscher launched a massive strike force of 280 fighters, bombers and torpedo planes, and the fight was on. For two hours, the Surface Special Attack Force was subjected to a merciless aerial bombardment. The air wings of eleven fleet carriers joined in the attack—so many planes were in the air above Yamato that the fear of midair collision was real. The naval aviators were in such a hurry to score the first hit on the allegedly unsinkable ship plans for a coordinated attack collapsed into a free-for-all. Yamato took two hits during this attack, two bombs and one torpedo, and air attacks claimed two escorting destroyers...```

2019-09-10 18:51:58 UTC  

Yeah but war being inevitable doesn't make their thing rational. If anything they were just forced into it by the logical progression of their ideology, as you said. But that ideology proved suicidal for them, not rational.

2019-09-10 18:52:19 UTC  

The strike itself, was rational though.

2019-09-10 18:52:22 UTC  

The timing as well.

2019-09-10 18:52:34 UTC  

HAH