https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Alliance

By 2001 the Northern Alliance controlled less than 10% of the country, cornered in the north-east and based in Badakhshan province. The US invaded Afghanistan, providing support to Northern Alliance troops on the ground in a two-month war against the Taliban, which they won in December 2001.

So, the Islamic emirate of afghanistan was a short-lived taliban controlled country, mostly backed by pakistan

Again, this was an attempted take over by pakistan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Emirate_of_Afghanistan

"At its peak, the Taliban established control over approximately 90% of the country, whereas remaining parts of the country in the northeast were held by the Northern Alliance, who maintained broad international recognition as a continuation of the Islamic State of Afghanistan"

Ah no winning wars is easy. Took a couple weeks in Afgan and Iraq. It's peacekeeping and nation building we're shit at.

This is generally accepted as the case by most sources, 90% is an estimate of course. The main idea is that the Taliban were a pakistani backed psy-op organization, masquerading as as a terrorist organization

of course the thin line between state-sponsored terrorist group and fake terrorist group is so thin it doesn't matter, so it's essentially all the same thing

But it was't an organic uprising in afghanistan, in fact many Taliban don't even speak the same language as native afghanistan speakers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Role_of_the_Pakistani_military

>we're also no one to split hairs over sponsorship of terrorists
this is a fascinating clash of information. if the taliban have been "pushed back" exactly how the fuck do theu have the clout to participate mutually in negotiation?

the ever reliable wikipedia, as usual

"The Taliban were largely founded by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence beginning in 1994; the I.S.I. used the Taliban to establish a regime in Afghanistan which would be favorable to Pakistan, as they were trying to gain strategic depth. Since the creation of the Taliban, the ISI and the Pakistani military have given financial, logistical and military support." - "On 1 August 1997, the Taliban launched an attack on Sheberghan, the main military base of Abdul Rashid Dostum. Dostum has said the reason the attack was successful was due to 1500 Pakistani commandos taking part and that the Pakistani air force also gave support"

Peace talks with the Taliban have failed

it likely was never going to succeed to begin with

It's just a general source of information, you can more or less find the same thing from other sources

they've halted, there's no indication they wont happen again

Wikipedia is a decent aggregate

Nationbuilding is inherently difficult, so it takes several decades

The only way to be succesful is to stay there for several decades. That may seem harsh, but that's what it takes

thankfully, it's not all that expensive just to stay there as a small occupying force

The war cost like 800 billion dollars, but it only costs like, 1 billion dollars or so to stay there

a year

this is phenomenal excusing of wasting billions of dollars and decades of time

none of this should have been our fucking problem

It becomes our problem if we don't take care of it

bull

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shit

Not to mention it's a humintarian problem

So other than the fact we have a moral obligation to help the world, there's also the fact it's not like they would be willing to leave well enough alone

I mean for example, look at the millions of refugees flooding Europe right now becuase Syria is falling apart

The millions of refugees from iraq go some where

This sort of problem doesn't just go away unfortunately

we have no such fucking obligation, we are our own fucking nation state, we have our own problems and responsibilities

With that much suffering everyone gets involved

We do have a moral obligation as they are fellow human beings

But beyond that, it will end up effecting us eventually

it's not as if the problems go away