When is? @SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck

because the alternative is exercise of state authority on the matter

https://www.babycenter.com/404_when-can-my-baby-survive-outside-the-womb_10419991.bc

22 weeks or so

20 weeks is when is starts feeling pain

@Monstrous Moonshine That is disgusting, but it doesn't justify attempting to restrict women's access to legal abortion. I would resort to societal pressure to stop that one.

Oh, those people should be based

Ironically

I don’t condone any type of violence

I wouldn’t touch them with a 10 foot barge pole

It’s honestly sick how many sexual fantasies they’re now days

It’s one thing for a preference

Also, aborted fetuses can be used to further stem cell research, which might one day lead to a cure for MS, among other things, which would mean no one else would have to suffer like my mother does.

But Jesus this is going to far

@Hylia I’m not against Stem cell research at all but I do believe it’s better to keep the child alive, when it is

But _getting off_ on abortion? That's just sick.

you could attach l ron hubbards abortion machine (coat hanger) to that barge pole

That’s pretty much what I want to stop @Hylia

yeah, I'll just go ahead and stipulate I don't count 'sexual fetish' as fitting the 'within reason' parameter I mentioned earlier

Abortion because it’s easy

Or you like it

@Snake Oh, I definitely agree. I just think that, when a pregnancy is terminated, it should be used to help stem cell research.

Or because you get sexually attracted to it

Yeah I’m not against any type of stem cell research

pretty sure the actual fetish part is the pregnancy, but that's hardly an excuse

Anyway I guess pro choice in my mind meant the retarded “we can have a discussion after the baby is born”

But yeah, abortion "for the hell of it" or anything like that is just... bad.

A cap for how many abortions you can have

or some sort of significant disincentive along those lines

or just get rid of the whole thing on principle, and tell people to use fucking contraceptives

ok, get rid of guns on principle and tell people to get along better

Not the same thing

Maybe, but I also believe that that could lead to illegitimate pregnancy terminations and other such things. I personally believe that society will have to sort out the problem of people getting abortions for the wrong reasons. And yes, improved sex ed is a definite good approach to limiting abortions.

same result

That’s apples and oranges

How?

It’s not

people will just do it illegally, nothing is solved

Guns aren’t inherently killing anyone
The argument from conservatives is that abortions are

A gun on the table doesn’t shoot people

But illegalizing abortion will _never_ end well. Unless we develop a more human procedure that renders abortion completely obsolete.