Message from @Jake the Exile
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And I know how much damage it caused
Doesn't matter if Jesus doesn't exist . His doctrine is, that we are meant to have freedoms to think.
Yeah, so much damage you're not speaking Arabic right now.
Hence the reason why it's working in the UK.
Strawman @Jake the Exile
If Greece loose their religious leaders, then the ottoman empire will begin.
Straight up! I don't want that.
@ETBrooD That's not a strawman, even in its most militant phase that was in the context of Muslim conquest.
I know Christian authoritarianism also did a few good things, but that doesn't it a good thing overall *today*
Yes it is a strawman
What's wrong with the Ottomans?
There's a better option than Christian authoritarianism
FFS Eccles
You're coming in with a low punch.
I don't punch, I poke
Aim higher and think about the house of lords.
Do I really have to?
@ETBrooD No, a strawman would be assuming from your claim that Christianity did not build the West, that the white race built the West and that the only basis we have for supremacy is whiteness and not Christian ethic.
We have temporal supremacy brought about by being the first nation to industrialise
Whiteness and Christianity are -broadly- irrelevent, causally
We were
Public sanitation came after industrialisation
Your strawman was to say that I think Christian authoritarianism did nothing good ever
Why do you say Jesus isn't real?
He wasn't
Prove to me he was
Give an example of Christian authoritarianism in the west
Really? Then where did Christianity come from?
The fantasy of a few men
Twelve men who were all tortured to death for refusing to recant it?
All twelve?
Died for a lie?
I don't believe what's written in the Bible
Most of it was made up
FUcking Watergate didn't have that level of success.
And?
There were only five people invovled and one cracked under the pressure.
People back then didn't care about proof as much as we do today
Wow, this went into the weeds quickly
You don't think twelve people who were literally tortured to death for this belief would have confessed to it being false>