Message from @Jake the Exile
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Because people don't hold up to torture that well for something they know is a ruse.
It's the martyr angle
They hold up fine when they know there's no out
You clearly don't understand the human condition if you think people don't die for false beliefs
Are you willing to die for atheism?
Look at the people prepared to die to prevent brexit, for instance
Depends on the circumstances
@Eccles No one is willing to die to prevent Brexit. They are trying to prevent Brexit out of self-interest, because they think they WILL die if Brexit happens.
Thats the opposite of martyrdom, that's cowardice.
Oops you just gave one reason for why people die for false beliefs
Hint: there's more
Okay smartass. What do you think a world populated entirely by atheists would look like?
No clue, except there would be new religions that we don't define as such right now
Too many people can't live without religion, many just invent one if they don't have one
Why is that? Obviously YOU can live without religion. You and your big brain!
Yeah I can
That doesn't mean the world can follow into my footsteps
Your brain is so big you point at a statue and say "That's not real!"
Dogma can exist without a god. A world populated by atheists can be summed up adequately in an episode of South Park.
Yeah
"That person never existed he's just a figment of someone's imagination, that's why they made a statue of him because they're stupid!"
The failure is not in what we do not know, but in the fact that we are human
Take feminism for example, that is a religion in everything but name
Oh, but Christianity is worse because I watched Hunchback of Notre Dame.
lol
Actually it wasn't even an episode, I think it was a trilogy of episodes, and a damn good trilogy too.
I'm not a good person because I'm Atheist
You have to realize it's not just "the least possible evil" it's "the greatest force for good."
I don't think Christians are better or worse people than Atheists
Oh, but we can't have Christians in charge!!
Why not?
I'm not a good person because I hold positions that the grand majority of living humans would call "not good"
I hold the ad-populum in being bad.
Because I don't believe what they believe, and since I care about my freedom of thought and speech, I will fight against Christian authoritarianism, because they would restrict my freedom
Christians INVENTED your freedom.
No they did not
Anyone with a dogma will want that dogma to be their basis of society.
Oh, so it's GOD who gave you your freedoms!
?
I'm an atheist, remember?
And an idiot. If your rights are not manmade, then what are they?
No one gives me freedom