Message from @Miniature Menace
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Look up the history of Romania
Example?
I'm jerking off now
I thought the whole meme about ancaps being okay with slavery was a strawman
But holy shit, some people who claim to be ancaps actually believe that shit
Who?
>TMI
@Nevis robots aren't people and therefore my sexbot cannot be a slave
You know what Gservator, I actually concede on Wallachia, because I suddenly remembered Vee exists.
I never said anything about robots
You said slavery
CNN thinks sexbots need human rights
@Nevis Who is okay with slavery and an ancap?
I would have to dig-oh
Or was it Vox
"Ancap"
I use the quotations for a reason
>"Ancap"
What did he mean by this?
I saw a few literal screenshots of shit like that in this chat a few days ago
Would have to dig to find it
seriously, though, are they like, self-described ancaps?
Yeah
Depends on the type of slavery really, voluntary servitude to pay off debt or crime wouldn't be the worst
I know some ancaps are larpy edgibois and like to play into the strawman meme for chuckles, and it can be difficult to know what people actually believe without context or tone
Even though
Like
Inherent self-ownership is a fundamental concept in ancap theory that I know of
TBH I disregard the idea of any silly poitical view being seriously held by anyone unless it's directly associated with someone using their actual identity. Otherwise it's probably a troll.
Voluntary servitude
There seem to be two general camps on this. One is that self-ownershop is non-transferable under any condition, and one that you can still *lease* out your services under contractual obligation, which could be argued to be equivalent to slavery in function, but would require that the contract is entered voluntarily at some point.
This is trade, not slavery
Historians would disagree
essentially, it's "slavery" after the same fashion as employment is "slavery"
Perhaps define servitude as you mean it here
but the circumstance and conditions of it can be expanded to be pretty bad, depending on what's acceptable for terms of contract
To be certain we are referring to the same exact thing
Voluntarily becoming a slave for someone to fulfil a task for X amount of time to pay something off
@Gservator I'm speaking specifically of ancap philosophy on self-ownership, not broad historical opinions
@Miniature Menace I'm not talking to you
@Gservator "Historians would disagree"
This is not you talking to me then? Okay.
Yeah, I am certain there is a point of promised service where it crosses the line of trade to what amounts to slavery
Way too tired to really consider the nuance of where that is right now, though
In the Aztec empire if you didn't pay off the debt you became a sacrifice