Message from @JaIsCool
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Well, to be fair, we *assume* the unknown exists
Society itself is a simulation on how humans "should" behave, a social construct is inherently simulated.
Not like a physical boundary
So.. Platonic Ideals, anyone?
But a front between *beyond* and reality.
We live in a country
For the purposes here, universe is the part of *what is* that belongs to our rules
Of matter and energy
Ah, so you're using that working definition. Good to know.
Except for dark matter and quantum mechanics
those dont follow our proposed rules
We live in a society.
Yes, because it's nonsense to try to say what could exist beyond spacetime.
I 'unno anymore, Goodwood.
The mores have disintegrated.
Yall must've never done LSD
Simply put, there's *beyond*, and our reality, the shit we can measure, interact with, observe.
*beyond* shouldn't be considered part of the universe, nor reality, it just is, and the universe is all the matter and energy.
And other goodies.
NQ is claiming what I said as well - the *unknown*, *unknowable* and *known*.
We can't say time or space or anything like that exist beyond, just that there is a part that is universe, and a part that isn't. The isn't is infinite
The concept of the unknowable doesn't make it anymore knowable.
The is has to be finite.
Numbers prove this incorrect
It's a fair, but unconfirmable concept.
Numbers prove it correct, you cannot have an infinite amount of matter and energy.
theres an infite amount or numbers
It makes everying fail.
Because there's the matter of the unknown.
@NinjaQuick prove that it does
As said, numbers can lie at extremes.
Infinite energy means infinite entropy means the universe can't exist.
who says that energy is used all at once?
But the *apparent* laws indicate finite energy.
It doesn't matter, given enough infinity, it is inescapable.
As a result of said entropic cascade.
Infinitely in one direction over time negates entropy
Infinite is infinite, it is an irrational open ended value
You can't, infinite is irrational, it isn't pouring more in all the time
(See what I said about extremes.. don't get more extreme than infinite.)