Message from @Andrew Popa 2.0

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2019-08-28 20:11:41 UTC  

Well it is rather stupid to put so many resources into a weapon of this sorts

2019-08-28 20:11:52 UTC  

With a rocket that can fly for hundreds of years you can mine asssteroids, you can push enemy satellites off the earth orbit, you can spy on everyone without the fear of being caught

2019-08-28 20:12:02 UTC  

The potential is YOOGE

2019-08-28 20:12:03 UTC  

an ICBM can be targeted and destroyed if you can acquire during the ascent stage

2019-08-28 20:12:13 UTC  

but a cruise missle can't be targeted

2019-08-28 20:12:21 UTC  

But hey this is yet another reason why the EU shouldn't federalise nor should it even have a joint military

2019-08-28 20:12:39 UTC  

First of all, why have a single rocket which can carry say 25 megatons when you can have an ICBM with 10 nuckear warheads which can carry 2 to 3 megatons each

2019-08-28 20:12:52 UTC  

do NOT provoke the fuckers developping the nuke powered cruise missiles

2019-08-28 20:12:54 UTC  

This is the reason the US abandoned their project in the first place

2019-08-28 20:13:02 UTC  

a nuclear powered cruise missle makes an ICBM pretty useless

2019-08-28 20:13:02 UTC  

ICBMs are much more convenient

2019-08-28 20:13:04 UTC  

Also another point: a nuclear rocket can lift more into space

2019-08-28 20:13:12 UTC  

yes

2019-08-28 20:13:31 UTC  

cause the cruise missle can just circle almost indeffinately and swarm any ICBM on the ascent stage

2019-08-28 20:13:40 UTC  

Even if it has the same thrust, it can burn for hundreds of years, so it would eventually reach orbit

2019-08-28 20:14:04 UTC  

but @Uksio that's irrelevant as current research is looking into ways of making such things happen in space for better efficiency so as to be more fuel efficient

2019-08-28 20:14:08 UTC  

they would in effect enable a pre-emtive strike

2019-08-28 20:14:11 UTC  

The nuclear doctrine remains that warheads with smaller destructive capacity but which can be feilded in large numbers by ICBMs are more efficient than rocket with big destructive capabilities which can only target one place

2019-08-28 20:14:45 UTC  

because you could have most of the other guys icbms taregted before they even left the bunker and cruise missles just hovering

2019-08-28 20:14:52 UTC  

now you could say that maybe developing nuclear rockets is a good replacement for solid fuel rockets and that's true, but why do that when you can just skip the middle man entirely?

2019-08-28 20:15:14 UTC  

Well not really

2019-08-28 20:15:14 UTC  

Imagine if this is a failed rocket launch, and russia has a fleet of nuclear rockets just idly circling the earth in the furthest orbits, undetected

2019-08-28 20:15:18 UTC  

O O F

2019-08-28 20:15:35 UTC  

Nuclear Thermal Propulsion is eyed only for spacecraft

2019-08-28 20:15:49 UTC  

Imagine if the nukes have already dropped and we are living in inner eather

2019-08-28 20:15:49 UTC  

a cruise missle is a stalking weapon

2019-08-28 20:15:51 UTC  

Not rockets meant to send payloads into space

2019-08-28 20:15:53 UTC  

You'd think the US or China would INSTANTLY pick up on that

2019-08-28 20:15:56 UTC  

Yes, it is the most optimal in interplanetary space

2019-08-28 20:16:04 UTC  

not below radar

2019-08-28 20:16:12 UTC  

A nuclear rocket would be THE BEST choice for asteroid mining

2019-08-28 20:16:19 UTC  

why?

2019-08-28 20:16:31 UTC  

mining != demolition

2019-08-28 20:16:39 UTC  

Because it can provide thrust for hundreds of years

2019-08-28 20:16:53 UTC  

Asteroid mining is not thay feasible rn

2019-08-28 20:16:54 UTC  

but that has nothing to do with mining

2019-08-28 20:17:01 UTC  

@Andrew Popa 2.0 exactly my point, and they want to skip the nuclear powered phase entirely and go straight into laser prolusion and solar sails

2019-08-28 20:17:12 UTC  

It can bring any asteroid out of the oort belt and let it circle the earth in a stable orbit for mining

2019-08-28 20:17:21 UTC  

Why mine asteroids? Just crash them into Siberia and come in with trains and choppers.

2019-08-28 20:17:23 UTC  

Well in thay case it depends

2019-08-28 20:17:32 UTC  

that is a pipe dream;lasers can't provide the power