Message from @Settler's Lament
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And no swifter will it be if Lib/NDP/Green get in.
The Conservatives are a radically globalist party
I don't want any of them back in, but, having the CPC in power will allow conservatives, and anyone else opposed to the left, believe that there is a real opposition to the left and globalism, there is not currently.
I know boomerservatives, they literally think Canada was doing great until Trudeau got in power four years ago.
We still had immigration rates far higher then almost every other western country when Harper was in charge
Maybe we did, but the Cons are still the better alternative to the Liberals.
But, you're saying to vote Liberal, anyway.
No, I'm saying don't vote
I'm not telling anyone to vote Liberal, I am just saying it would be less damaging to vote for the Liberals then to vote for the Conservatives but you shouldn't vote for either
not voting is the same as saying you support what ever outcome happens.
No it is not, that is just wrong. There is more at stake in an election then the specific policy outcomes.
If the conservatives win they will not change
They are virtually identical to the Liberals on every important issue, yes they are probably 1% better then the Liberals, that doesn't matter because as long as we have a party consensus like this this country is fucked.
because we lack the ability to just vote "no competence" in all parties, what ever out come happens those who do not vote a presumably fine with it. as almost half of all eligible voters never turn out anyways.
you want to change the conservatives party? join them, talk to your local conservative candidate, head on down to one of the party offices and spend a day off just chatting with people. that will do a million times more than just not voting will.
I did litterally all that and they are far worse then when I was first a Conservative member
I was the number one volunteer for my local Conservative candidate.
They will not change if they win this election. The vast majority of their base wants less immigration and they want more
They party needs to be seriously damaged
then your tactics were ineffective. or, as good ol mad max has implied, they party is broken to its core and unsalvageable. if it is the former, not votging will do nothing, if it is the latter, not voting will do nothing.
I'm saying if you can't vote for any of them you shouldn't vote at all.
Same here. but if i did not have a PPC candidate in the area, i would vote for the candidate i thought would represent me and my area the best. whether that was a con lib or ndp
and yes 'nothing' is MUCH better then saying you are okay with the Conservative Party as it exists today
a lack of a vote is only important in places where voting is mandatory. in places like canada that have between a 60-70% voter turn out. It means so little as to mean nothing.
any time i did not want to vote for one of the ruling parties, i always voted one of the numerous independent parties that pop up everywhere. i was one of maybe 1000 votes in my area for the Canadian libertarian party last time round.
https://youtu.be/Z0LQA4qV3kg
At 24:36 he goes over the psychology of the leftist mindset. It's pretty interesting.
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3 more days fellow leafs
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i am prepared to vote for the PPC in my station
@Aleeacerix the Gaul(Velissarios) It's almost as if they get all their opinions from cpgrey
there's no way that the PPC is winning in my riding
the same conservative guy has been elected for as long as I can remember
if you are in a cpc dominated area where hes likely going to win regardless you can start saying you will purposely vote for anyone that could possibly beat them to beat the cpc until they stop disrespecting their base
Coalition governments are just as shitty.
