Message from @slow

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2019-10-17 19:09:42 UTC  

I think Boris should strike a deal with the SNP, to support a second independence referendum in exchange for them backing his deal

2019-10-17 19:09:55 UTC  

Fuck that

2019-10-17 19:10:05 UTC  

It would be acceptable

2019-10-17 19:10:19 UTC  

Besides they would likely vote to stay in the UK anyway

2019-10-17 19:10:27 UTC  

It would be bad right now

2019-10-17 19:10:32 UTC  

After Brexit

2019-10-17 19:10:38 UTC  

Unless they mandated a 4 year delay on the vote

2019-10-17 19:11:02 UTC  

And then made brexit work and work well

2019-10-17 19:11:10 UTC  

He agrees to hold an independence referendum in a year or so in exchange for them backing his deal

2019-10-17 19:11:19 UTC  

It would likely get his deal passed

2019-10-17 19:11:26 UTC  

At the cost of the union

2019-10-17 19:11:39 UTC  

Assuming they vote to Leave

2019-10-17 19:11:44 UTC  

I don't think they would

2019-10-17 19:11:51 UTC  

@The Electric Lizard I'd be down for that

2019-10-17 19:11:51 UTC  

At the moment it's touch and go

2019-10-17 19:12:11 UTC  

THe reason I said a delay would be helpful is that it gives Boris a chance to put the country right before they voted

2019-10-17 19:12:30 UTC  

Thus giving him a chance to undo the damage to the vote that has been caused by the brexit debacle

2019-10-17 19:13:14 UTC  

I am going to predict it now, He will pass the deal

2019-10-17 19:13:26 UTC  

Well he would say that, he's high up in the media pecking order

2019-10-17 19:14:30 UTC  

Since I haven't really looked into it at all... how good/bad is BJ's deal?

2019-10-17 19:14:33 UTC  

Not much media attention to be got from "nope, it's not close"

2019-10-17 19:14:53 UTC  

May's deal but with NI a common trade zone, essentially

2019-10-17 19:14:56 UTC  

From what I understand

2019-10-17 19:15:20 UTC  

ye and NI has the power to step out every four years

2019-10-17 19:15:29 UTC  

he got that in

2019-10-17 19:15:40 UTC  

I think he conceded that ground @Αγωνιζῆς

2019-10-17 19:15:53 UTC  

hm I heard otherwise🤔

2019-10-17 19:15:54 UTC  

DUP are pissed because of the potential of some form customs border in the Irish Sea and because they originally had been promised a veto they no longer have

2019-10-17 19:15:56 UTC  
2019-10-17 19:16:34 UTC  

GIving NI the power to change the arrangements are necessary for the Good Friday Agreement

2019-10-17 19:16:48 UTC  

DUP don't like it because it allows Unionists and Nationalists to require a majority between them both, and that might override Unionist votes, or something like that

2019-10-17 19:16:48 UTC  

But ironically the EU/Irish didn't like that because it takes power away from the EU

2019-10-17 19:16:59 UTC  
2019-10-17 19:17:26 UTC  

I thnk the DUP are making a mistake

2019-10-17 19:18:09 UTC  

In case the deal is passed - which I doubt - the slime media won't hesitate to critize the deal as being a surrender for weeks and months. Probably until the next GE.
The big winner would be Nigel.

2019-10-17 19:18:09 UTC  

I've heard that the motion is his deal or no deal overriding the Benn act as if parliament doesn't vote for a deal it agrees to the default position of eu law and we leave no deal Oct 31st?

2019-10-17 19:18:12 UTC  

I think this vote is going to be very close

2019-10-17 19:18:28 UTC  

Nah, think Nigel is done

2019-10-17 19:18:44 UTC  

He'll have to revise his direction