but anyways

this is a tangent

Yes, it was.
We started on basic human empathy for those we disagree with and ended up on "do all people actually have self restraint"

basically, my most trusted rule

which counts as a sort of "including but not limited to" statement

is if they have basic cognition

act like basic human beings

they have the capability and expectation of willpower

The argument most used to justify persecution of pedos is "self restraint" and "willpower over natural attraction"
I just fear these arguments being used against me for things like transsexuals and same sex attraction.

Nothing about how we treat pedos is consitant with how we wish to be treated about transsexuals. (Generally)

mostly if you just try to justify your situation

and say there is nothing weird or problematic about it

Ya, but i don't care what irrational people would think about a conversation i am having with what appears to be a rational person

?

sounded like you were about to make a "though dost protest to much" argument

Are you defining pedophilia as attraction to minors or attraction to prepubescents?

mark my words your arguments will be used against you to justify something you hate

If you call a child "cute" or "adorable" then you to might be a pedophile.

@Wizard_of_The_West I guess Jordan Peterson is a paedophile then

It still isnt clear how your defining it.

How can you debate something without a clear definition?

My point is attraction is subjective to another persons perspective.

To me it didn't matter how he difined it.
The important part was the arguments used to justify his position.
Even if "pedo" to him ment "someone attracted to an adult" my position wouldn't change.
Arguments from position of "just controll it bro... willpower dude" will be used to justify even more things i disagree with.

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@Wizard_of_The_West You have to make sure to differentiate between normal and sexual attraction; as attraction to the sport of football does not mean that one is in favour of promiscuous-activities with players.

Something that might interest you:
Last week, an Israeli tourist, who was on connection from India to Israel via Mosco and, was arrested 6 months ago, sentenced for 7.5 years in prison due to "drug trafficking" of... 9.5 grams of Grass, this punishment is unusually severe for such offense.
Apperantly, there's a Russian hacker which is under custody in Israel which US want to be extradited due to cyber crimes (which includes a couple of millions of Euros apperantly), he's extraditable according to laws, the Russians want him back (due to his talents).
Coincidence? Probably not, the entire thing sounds like a Russian ploy to get the hacker back, probably is because they've, allegedly ,already suggested to do "prisoners exchange" with him and the girl (the tourist).

Well it seems like something the USA would definitely do if the moment was opportune.

International game of thrones 'n sheeeiiit

Eh, I'm pretty sure that their judiciary is independent...

Unlike the Russian one...

You really think the USA wouldn't pull strings with all the different government bodies and administrations?

Not to mention that she was never meant to be arrested because she never entered Russia

She was on connection

The amount of dodgy shit the USA has done to its own citizens wouldn't make me think on the matter much.
Russians would probably justify it on a "she was in our country between flights, therefore she broke our laws whilst on-route."

They can't do that

There are very clear international laws

As long as the person didn't went through passport check, they are not legally on the country and can not be arrested by the country's law enforcement