Message from @Coolitic

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2019-10-18 17:40:25 UTC  

people's view on how the world works

2019-10-18 17:40:34 UTC  

are usually a reflection of their own personal struggles/desires

2019-10-18 17:40:44 UTC  

and the fact that you just said most people dont have that ability

2019-10-18 17:41:01 UTC  

is most likely a sign that you just lack willpower and discipline yourself

2019-10-18 17:44:34 UTC  

I won't deny that i lack willpower and discipline.
But you need to understand that an overwhelming majority of pedophilic tendencies come from sever mental trauma or dysfunction.
In the worst of cases said individuals are no longer neurologicaly capable of the intensive introspection necessary for them to apply such self restraint.

2019-10-18 17:44:50 UTC  

I appreciate the honesty

2019-10-18 17:45:17 UTC  

however, I refuse the idea of individuals being "neurologically incapable" of restraining themselves

2019-10-18 17:45:31 UTC  

with the exception of them being completely insane all-around

2019-10-18 17:46:14 UTC  

What about people with underdeveloped portions of their brain as a result of birth circumstance?

2019-10-18 17:46:53 UTC  

if they have at least basic human cognition

2019-10-18 17:46:56 UTC  

Eventually some are bound to be born with parts "missing" for said self restraint

2019-10-18 17:47:07 UTC  

you understand the brain is very plastic?

2019-10-18 17:47:13 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-18 17:47:24 UTC  

and people have lost large chunks of their brain

2019-10-18 17:47:32 UTC  

and still functioned as humans?

2019-10-18 17:47:47 UTC  

albeit, with several problems and deficiencies

2019-10-18 17:48:25 UTC  

But applying said plasticity requires a remarkable amount of external factors mainly the empathy of those involved in your treatment

2019-10-18 17:48:55 UTC  

yes and no

2019-10-18 17:49:03 UTC  

it depends

2019-10-18 17:49:13 UTC  

but anyways

2019-10-18 17:49:16 UTC  

this is a tangent

2019-10-18 17:50:26 UTC  

Yes, it was.
We started on basic human empathy for those we disagree with and ended up on "do all people actually have self restraint"

2019-10-18 17:51:40 UTC  

basically, my most trusted rule

2019-10-18 17:51:51 UTC  

which counts as a sort of "including but not limited to" statement

2019-10-18 17:51:56 UTC  

is if they have basic cognition

2019-10-18 17:52:02 UTC  

act like basic human beings

2019-10-18 17:52:12 UTC  

they have the capability and expectation of willpower

2019-10-18 17:53:15 UTC  

The argument most used to justify persecution of pedos is "self restraint" and "willpower over natural attraction"
I just fear these arguments being used against me for things like transsexuals and same sex attraction.

2019-10-18 17:54:39 UTC  

Nothing about how we treat pedos is consitant with how we wish to be treated about transsexuals. (Generally)

2019-10-18 17:54:43 UTC  

mostly if you just try to justify your situation

2019-10-18 17:55:04 UTC  

and say there is nothing weird or problematic about it

2019-10-18 17:56:15 UTC  

Ya, but i don't care what irrational people would think about a conversation i am having with what appears to be a rational person

2019-10-18 17:57:31 UTC  

?

2019-10-18 17:58:29 UTC  

sounded like you were about to make a "though dost protest to much" argument

2019-10-18 17:58:47 UTC  

Are you defining pedophilia as attraction to minors or attraction to prepubescents?

2019-10-18 17:58:56 UTC  

mark my words your arguments will be used against you to justify something you hate

2019-10-18 17:59:56 UTC  

If you call a child "cute" or "adorable" then you to might be a pedophile.

2019-10-18 18:02:20 UTC  

@Wizard_of_The_West I guess Jordan Peterson is a paedophile then

2019-10-18 18:05:22 UTC  

It still isnt clear how your defining it.

2019-10-18 18:05:37 UTC  

How can you debate something without a clear definition?

2019-10-18 18:12:42 UTC  

My point is attraction is subjective to another persons perspective.