It's already been rigged up so that if we remove it, it'll plunge the bottom level of labor to a pitiful level, but if we continue to raise it, it's just going to equivalently inflate our currency until it has been nullified

We still need to supplement UBI with a meritocracy I feel, humans need competition, it's healthy and continues to see us develop.

"supplement"? UBI doesn't remove meritocracy

There ain't no better motivator then hunger or sexual desire.

Ok, so there are some supporters. I'd like to ask you a question with one example in mind. Let's take DVD amd Blu ray sales. Or heck, why not video games.

Did you ever stop to consider why a particular film or game region locked so it will only play on devices in countries like Bangladesh cost almost three to four times less than the same game or movie region locked to Europe or the U.S?

You can eliminate all homelessness, but then all you do is raise the baseline.

The problem with a UBI is that it either will provide too much base and discourage low-level workers from entering the workforce, or it won't provide enough and will create a new generation of gov-dependent poverty

For countries like the UK that have well-established multi-generations of people in gov-dependent poverty this isn't a problem

And wouldn't discourage low-level workers entering the workforce

(no more than now)

probably because bangladesh is a poorer country?

i'd assume

Guaranteeing a thousand dollars a month just seems dumb to me.

Assuming it's that high, which I doubt, then that's already what people get in welfare

It’s nice don’t get me wrong but that’s expecting people to use it

it's because the value of currencies are so different in those countries partially, but more than anything it's simple content-restriction due to the varying ratings systems in different countries and purity/blasphemy/profanity laws

Ya, but expecting people to buy your product when they no longer have purchasing power is also stupid

You all like dick in the butt

just get rid of welfare in favor of institutionalization

I like to put my dick in butts, if that's what you mean

UBI has flaws yet a future of endless automation won't sustain itself for shit after a short time.

@Death in June Bingo. And the people who sell them knows it's a pooree country.

You see pricing is not solely decided on factors of costs involving manufacture alone. Another key component to pricing is median and average income as a baseline.

When you mass produce something (like video games or DVD movies) you're not targeting a niche clientel. You want to mass produce for the purpose of mass consumerism.

Your assuming we should innately automate everything

People claiming automation will destroy the economy permanently are ignorant of how economies evolve to changing circumstances

@ubermensch greed is a great motivator.

i think it would depend on the product

Anal with a female is Protogay

If you had told the luddites in 1890 who were worried about industry wrecking the economy and causing mass poverty that in 30 years, horseless carriage business would replace most of those jobs, they'd have laughed you out the door

But it happened

I would like to say hey

with traditional commodities pricing is determined by cost of production primarily, with a markup slapped on top

the sort of media you are talking about are not traditional commodities however because you don't lose the commodity when you sell it

Basically you want to both sell your product as expensively as possible (in the sense that you want to make as much profit from it as you can), while at the same time selling as cheaply as possible (so as not to lose out sales to competition, or due to the fact that the average consumer simply won't be able to afford to buy what you're selling)

economies always adapt to changing market circumstances if allowed to ebb and flow in a natural enough way, automation isn't some new insurmountable paradigm in that respect

Ye and a big section of the world got enslaved or killed based on the shifting management from a agrarian economy to an industrial one

So don’t tell me innately it offers the best good guaranteed

It doesn’t

Sure, like I said it may be turbulent but it'll adapt

essentially, mass automation is incompatible with a healthy version of capitalism.

You say that like you can forsee the future