Message from @Seven Proxies

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2019-10-17 18:42:52 UTC  

Assuming it's that high, which I doubt, then that's already what people get in welfare

2019-10-17 18:42:54 UTC  

It’s nice don’t get me wrong but that’s expecting people to use it

2019-10-17 18:43:01 UTC  

it's because the value of currencies are so different in those countries partially, but more than anything it's simple content-restriction due to the varying ratings systems in different countries and purity/blasphemy/profanity laws

2019-10-17 18:43:15 UTC  

Ya, but expecting people to buy your product when they no longer have purchasing power is also stupid

2019-10-17 18:43:30 UTC  

You all like dick in the butt

2019-10-17 18:43:45 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633966934622208031/634461562366590986/1570878869383.jpg

2019-10-17 18:44:21 UTC  

just get rid of welfare in favor of institutionalization

2019-10-17 18:44:21 UTC  

I like to put my dick in butts, if that's what you mean

2019-10-17 18:44:28 UTC  

UBI has flaws yet a future of endless automation won't sustain itself for shit after a short time.

2019-10-17 18:44:52 UTC  

@Death in June Bingo. And the people who sell them knows it's a pooree country.

You see pricing is not solely decided on factors of costs involving manufacture alone. Another key component to pricing is median and average income as a baseline.

When you mass produce something (like video games or DVD movies) you're not targeting a niche clientel. You want to mass produce for the purpose of mass consumerism.

2019-10-17 18:44:54 UTC  

Your assuming we should innately automate everything

2019-10-17 18:44:56 UTC  

People claiming automation will destroy the economy permanently are ignorant of how economies evolve to changing circumstances

2019-10-17 18:45:18 UTC  

@ubermensch greed is a great motivator.

2019-10-17 18:45:33 UTC  

i think it would depend on the product

2019-10-17 18:45:34 UTC  

Anal with a female is Protogay

2019-10-17 18:45:49 UTC  

If you had told the luddites in 1890 who were worried about industry wrecking the economy and causing mass poverty that in 30 years, horseless carriage business would replace most of those jobs, they'd have laughed you out the door

2019-10-17 18:45:52 UTC  

But it happened

2019-10-17 18:45:55 UTC  

I would like to say hey

2019-10-17 18:45:59 UTC  

with traditional commodities pricing is determined by cost of production primarily, with a markup slapped on top

2019-10-17 18:46:19 UTC  

the sort of media you are talking about are not traditional commodities however because you don't lose the commodity when you sell it

2019-10-17 18:46:23 UTC  

Basically you want to both sell your product as expensively as possible (in the sense that you want to make as much profit from it as you can), while at the same time selling as cheaply as possible (so as not to lose out sales to competition, or due to the fact that the average consumer simply won't be able to afford to buy what you're selling)

2019-10-17 18:46:56 UTC  

economies always adapt to changing market circumstances if allowed to ebb and flow in a natural enough way, automation isn't some new insurmountable paradigm in that respect

2019-10-17 18:47:06 UTC  

Ye and a big section of the world got enslaved or killed based on the shifting management from a agrarian economy to an industrial one

2019-10-17 18:47:20 UTC  

So don’t tell me innately it offers the best good guaranteed

2019-10-17 18:47:22 UTC  

It doesn’t

2019-10-17 18:47:22 UTC  

Sure, like I said it may be turbulent but it'll adapt

2019-10-17 18:47:29 UTC  

essentially, mass automation is incompatible with a healthy version of capitalism.

2019-10-17 18:47:40 UTC  

You say that like you can forsee the future

2019-10-17 18:47:54 UTC  

You say that like you didn’t look at the past

2019-10-17 18:47:54 UTC  

There are absolutely healthy capitalist options that involve mass automation

2019-10-17 18:48:08 UTC  

And therein lies the problem with both UBI and minimum wage. When you establish these things through law, then you establish a baseline. Which makes it very easy for corporations to raise and lower their prices accordingly. Just enough so the average consumer can afford it, but still keeping it high enough that you effctively get away with as much profit as possible (and indirectly hampering the purchasing power of the average consumer)

2019-10-17 18:48:10 UTC  

Literally Red is making a marxist argument

2019-10-17 18:48:27 UTC  

Marx argued that industrialization would destroy the viability of capitalism on a fundamental level

2019-10-17 18:48:28 UTC  

Ye and where do those people end up when they don’t fit neatly into that automated field?

2019-10-17 18:48:43 UTC  

In any number of fields that have yet to be automated

2019-10-17 18:48:50 UTC  

Ye ok sure.

2019-10-17 18:48:52 UTC  

In any number of jobs that support automation

2019-10-17 18:48:57 UTC  

Look at the trends currently, I'm not making a marxist argument, but the economic gap is partially due to run away capitalism.

2019-10-17 18:49:08 UTC  

It's due to runaway corporatism

2019-10-17 18:49:16 UTC  

Which sure is a form of capitalism but a distinct one

2019-10-17 18:49:20 UTC  

apply mass automation, boom, oligarchy to the extreme