Message from @Weez

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2019-08-27 16:47:07 UTC  

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM I agree with you on the conflict because this is going to be an interesting next few months, showing signs that the European Union is fake. There is no need for their existence.

2019-08-27 16:47:46 UTC  

I can't wait for Brexiteers to complain when the EU refuses to make a deal in the future because the UK refused to pay the money it owes.

2019-08-27 17:41:08 UTC  

I don't think you get it. They'll find a way through tariffs to ensure they get the money.

2019-08-27 17:41:58 UTC  

The only way that an agreement will be signed is if the UK pays the money.

2019-08-27 17:42:02 UTC  

How do you not understand this?

2019-08-27 17:48:43 UTC  

Why would they owe anything? They're leaving. If the EU wanted a deal it was on them to set agreeable terms. Not that petty false colony bullshit

2019-08-27 17:49:35 UTC  

Agreements and obligations made while in the Union still stand

2019-08-27 17:49:42 UTC  

IE, paying off the remainder of debts for example

2019-08-27 17:50:26 UTC  

We already agreed through the Vienna convention that we would pay them

2019-08-27 17:50:32 UTC  

We would be breaking treaty if we did not.

2019-08-27 17:50:45 UTC  

You don't seem to understand the idea of a one sided agreement. The EU decided that the UK owed money, the UK never agreed to pay the money. Just because the EU demands it doesn't make it an agreement

2019-08-27 17:51:00 UTC  

But we did.

2019-08-27 17:51:05 UTC  

Through signing the Vienna convention.

2019-08-27 17:52:46 UTC  

Doesn't cover what they were demanding, what debts does the second largest CONTRIBUTER have in the EU? The UK has a net loss from the deal. If there are any debts it's what the EU owes the UK

2019-08-27 17:53:17 UTC  

We signed up for the EU's budget framework when we became a member. We agreed to pay a percentage of that YEARLY budget.

2019-08-27 17:53:24 UTC  

This is something we signed into law.

2019-08-27 17:53:54 UTC  

A percentage of an arbitrary budget that they inflated just to screw brexit

2019-08-27 17:54:23 UTC  

A budget which is agreed upon and signed by the EU parliament and then by us, the member state.

2019-08-27 17:54:30 UTC  

This is a budget which has already been agreed upon.

2019-08-27 17:54:37 UTC  

And we allowed.

2019-08-27 17:54:42 UTC  

Else, we would have veto'd it

2019-08-27 17:55:15 UTC  

The budget they are demanding be paid on was decided after brexit was voted on

2019-08-27 17:55:35 UTC  

There's the 2016 budget for one.

2019-08-27 17:55:44 UTC  

Which we agreed upon before the referendum

2019-08-27 17:56:15 UTC  

We're still paying into the EU budget now.

2019-08-27 17:56:29 UTC  

*Or should be at least*

2019-08-27 17:56:53 UTC  

Only till the end of October

2019-08-27 17:56:56 UTC  

The budget is just ONE point

2019-08-27 17:56:58 UTC  

If you are

2019-08-27 17:57:00 UTC  

In which we will have to pay

2019-08-27 17:57:09 UTC  

We have other obligations in the EU

2019-08-27 17:58:40 UTC  

There's no enforceable obligations to an undemocratic union, the worst they can do is take it out on the countries still in. They literally can't hurt the UK once they leave.

2019-08-27 17:58:56 UTC  

"undemocratic union"

2019-08-27 17:58:58 UTC  

We vote in it.

2019-08-27 17:59:00 UTC  

We voted to join.

2019-08-27 17:59:03 UTC  

We voted to leave.

2019-08-27 17:59:06 UTC  

We have influence in it.

2019-08-27 17:59:08 UTC  

You vote on parliament

2019-08-27 17:59:15 UTC  

So you can fuck off with that leaver BS.

2019-08-27 17:59:18 UTC  

Who has no actual power