Message from @JoeyJoestar1337

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2019-09-04 04:32:35 UTC  

I think what the Bible often lacks is proper context

2019-09-04 04:32:46 UTC  

A few days ago I criticized the story of Noah's arc

2019-09-04 04:32:49 UTC  

Not necessarily you can hate and not have to kill people. Just like you can lust and accidentally squeeze to hard when she says choke me.

2019-09-04 04:33:00 UTC  

Then they me too you or just die

2019-09-04 04:33:51 UTC  

The idea of the seven sins is excess. Any of them can work, without causing much, or any harm, but in excess they become what they were named for: Deadly.

2019-09-04 04:34:56 UTC  

What does his story teach us? He believed there were signs that a huge, never before seen flood would come and he centered his whole life around surviving that flood. He had no piece of evidence except what God told him. Now, no one else had God tell them that there was a flood coming, so from a purely scientific perspective, Noah was vastly outmatched by the evidence.
And what happened? The flood came, he survived, along with the animal kingdom, and he was proven right.
How is that a good moral of the story? Noah was clearly insane. He should've been proven wrong, the flood should've never come.

2019-09-04 04:35:24 UTC  

It wasn't a moral statement, it was a "fear me" from God.

2019-09-04 04:35:34 UTC  

But it is a moral statement, too

2019-09-04 04:35:46 UTC  

@Lios that's why you got the 7 virtues. You can imagine people would limit these 7 deadly sins as best they could and tried instead for the virtues.

2019-09-04 04:35:48 UTC  

It tells us that the insane man who tells us the world's gonna end was right and we should listen to him

2019-09-04 04:35:56 UTC  

Even if we don't have any evidence for that

2019-09-04 04:36:10 UTC  

That sounds like a horrible message to me to teach kids

2019-09-04 04:37:03 UTC  

Believe some unbacked claims without evidence... but not the others.

2019-09-04 04:37:22 UTC  

@ETBrooD so is some guy in a lab coat saying the earth will be swallowed by the sun and the universe will die of heat death so embrace nihilism and modernity and fuck a tranny amirite?

2019-09-04 04:37:29 UTC  

Yeah, like washing your left hand but not your right hand, because why not

2019-09-04 04:37:35 UTC  

No, get the fuck off this rock @JoeyJoestar1337

2019-09-04 04:37:52 UTC  

Uhm

2019-09-04 04:37:57 UTC  

Whole universe out there, this place is bound to get boring

2019-09-04 04:38:03 UTC  

Science has evidence for the heat death of the earth

2019-09-04 04:38:12 UTC  

Not "a voice in my head that no one else heard"

2019-09-04 04:38:25 UTC  

I ain't arguing that dude lmao

2019-09-04 04:38:33 UTC  

But that's my point, it's about evidence

2019-09-04 04:38:36 UTC  

Well the heat death is for the universe. Even that is under questioning, and is only theoretical, but it's the strongest one we've got.

2019-09-04 04:38:53 UTC  

The heat death of the universe is one possible outcome, right now the big freeze is more commonly accepted

2019-09-04 04:39:00 UTC  

But the idea is to find a way to beat it. Not just give in completely and just give up.

2019-09-04 04:39:18 UTC  

We humans are clever fuckers.

2019-09-04 04:39:23 UTC  

But what if you believe in the wrong thing because you don't use good evidence to justify your belief?

2019-09-04 04:39:29 UTC  

Then you can just as well believe in anything

2019-09-04 04:39:41 UTC  

Humans will not live to see heat death of the universe.

2019-09-04 04:40:07 UTC  

Yeah, it's unlikely. The chance is there. Also there's the idea that it will occur so quickly, we wouldn't even know when it happened.

2019-09-04 04:40:31 UTC  

Humans will be wiped out by nuclear war, meteor or Ebola-chan.

2019-09-04 04:40:43 UTC  

Basically

2019-09-04 04:40:50 UTC  

A good example are the recent Amazon fires

2019-09-04 04:40:51 UTC  

Me voting Giant Meteor in the US elections these past 12 years hasn't helped much

2019-09-04 04:41:08 UTC  

Especially considering that near-miss recently. Almost buddy, maybe next year.

2019-09-04 04:41:18 UTC  

Next time vote Hillary. Vote for nuclear holocaust.

2019-09-04 04:41:26 UTC  

Even actual scientists have started yelping about. "Ohhh the Amazon fires, they're terrible, do something, that president is crazy"

2019-09-04 04:41:28 UTC  

Nah, too many will survive :^)

2019-09-04 04:41:30 UTC  

Vote for meteor is a vote wasted.

2019-09-04 04:41:42 UTC  

Turns out the evidence shows the Amazon is perfectly fine.

2019-09-04 04:42:01 UTC  

Still a damn nasty fire, but California is just laughing.