That sounds shitty lmao a science that doesn't care about itself.

Science is a process, a method, it has no motive

Its whole motive is through the human condition bud.

For it to be a process it needs a motive

Duh

Wrong, you can divorce the human condition and still do science

Humans are not the only creatures capable of doing science

LOL

As a method, it does not care who does it, nor does it need belief. Belief is not part of the equation, as at the core, it is meant to be entirely imperical.

Science as we know it or what is science?

Science does not require human input

You think orangutans do science?

Yes, they do

Yeah bud and 1000 monkeys somewhere right now is writing what Shakespeare wanted to write about after he died.

They can gather memories of action -> reaction and adjust their behavior accordingly

Yeah, we call them drama students, but it's only what they _thought_ he wanted to write.

When you look outside your window and see what the weather is, you're doing science

Any animal can do the same

Observe, reason, hypothesize, come to a conclusion.

Looking out your window to see what the weather is is just an observation. If I wanted to do science I'd start tracking the weather and try making predictions through reasons of my experiments conducted and further tward my hypothesis. But with something like the weather it's very chaotic it changes from planet to planet and even if you were doing specifically for one planet one catastrophe could change the whole planet's atmosphere and destroy your research because any pattern you recorded doesn't exist anymore.

This is a typical misconception of what science is. You do not require to do very complex things to be doing science.

In fact science works best if you reduce the complexity.

Ah, but you had a problem to answer. You wanted to know what the weather was. You had some basis to go on with memory. Where was a place you could see the weather? You reasoned going to the window was likely a good idea, tested that hypothesis, and came to a conclusion as you came to the window, letting you see if there was an indication to the weather outside.

Then why aren't squirrels in the bronze age.

Because they lack the skills and the brain capacity for that.

Humans are a further evolved species, we're capable of performing more complex tasks than all other living creatures

I have no bias when it comes to "what's the weather like" looking out the window

Well, that's not the point

Our brains consider these things far more rapidly than a lot of other creatures.

You do science when you check the weather, because it's a form of pursuing knowledge

You do science when you count with your fingers

Even little kids do this

Y'all know how to count binary with your fingers? Quite fun, and very handy. Pun intended.

Do you do science when you dream?

Well that's a very tough question

Indeed

I don't know, you'll have to ask someone else who's studied that

Depends on how truly lucid you are, and since none of it can have any form of outside observer (at least at this stage of technology) we have to go with you can, and you cannot.

When proposing a binary question like that with which we have no answer, we go to Schrodinger's theory.

Lets just say

You can do science being aware that you're doing it or being unaware that you're doing it