Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-09-04 04:49:35 UTC  

LOL

2019-09-04 04:49:43 UTC  

As a method, it does not care who does it, nor does it need belief. Belief is not part of the equation, as at the core, it is meant to be entirely imperical.

2019-09-04 04:49:52 UTC  

Science as we know it or what is science?

2019-09-04 04:50:13 UTC  

Science does not require human input

2019-09-04 04:50:28 UTC  

You think orangutans do science?

2019-09-04 04:50:33 UTC  

Yes, they do

2019-09-04 04:51:15 UTC  

Yeah bud and 1000 monkeys somewhere right now is writing what Shakespeare wanted to write about after he died.

2019-09-04 04:51:40 UTC  

They can gather memories of action -> reaction and adjust their behavior accordingly

2019-09-04 04:51:46 UTC  

Yeah, we call them drama students, but it's only what they _thought_ he wanted to write.

2019-09-04 04:52:09 UTC  

When you look outside your window and see what the weather is, you're doing science

2019-09-04 04:52:24 UTC  

Any animal can do the same

2019-09-04 04:52:27 UTC  

Observe, reason, hypothesize, come to a conclusion.

2019-09-04 04:56:16 UTC  

Looking out your window to see what the weather is is just an observation. If I wanted to do science I'd start tracking the weather and try making predictions through reasons of my experiments conducted and further tward my hypothesis. But with something like the weather it's very chaotic it changes from planet to planet and even if you were doing specifically for one planet one catastrophe could change the whole planet's atmosphere and destroy your research because any pattern you recorded doesn't exist anymore.

2019-09-04 04:57:19 UTC  

This is a typical misconception of what science is. You do not require to do very complex things to be doing science.

2019-09-04 04:57:47 UTC  

In fact science works best if you reduce the complexity.

2019-09-04 04:57:56 UTC  

Ah, but you had a problem to answer. You wanted to know what the weather was. You had some basis to go on with memory. Where was a place you could see the weather? You reasoned going to the window was likely a good idea, tested that hypothesis, and came to a conclusion as you came to the window, letting you see if there was an indication to the weather outside.

2019-09-04 04:57:58 UTC  

Then why aren't squirrels in the bronze age.

2019-09-04 04:58:11 UTC  

Because they lack the skills and the brain capacity for that.

2019-09-04 04:59:08 UTC  

Humans are a further evolved species, we're capable of performing more complex tasks than all other living creatures

2019-09-04 04:59:17 UTC  

I have no bias when it comes to "what's the weather like" looking out the window

2019-09-04 04:59:33 UTC  

Well, that's not the point

2019-09-04 04:59:34 UTC  

Our brains consider these things far more rapidly than a lot of other creatures.

2019-09-04 04:59:42 UTC  

You do science when you check the weather, because it's a form of pursuing knowledge

2019-09-04 05:00:31 UTC  

You do science when you count with your fingers

2019-09-04 05:00:38 UTC  

Even little kids do this

2019-09-04 05:00:54 UTC  

Y'all know how to count binary with your fingers? Quite fun, and very handy. Pun intended.

2019-09-04 05:01:11 UTC  

Do you do science when you dream?

2019-09-04 05:01:26 UTC  

Well that's a very tough question

2019-09-04 05:01:38 UTC  

Indeed

2019-09-04 05:01:51 UTC  

I don't know, you'll have to ask someone else who's studied that

2019-09-04 05:01:52 UTC  

Depends on how truly lucid you are, and since none of it can have any form of outside observer (at least at this stage of technology) we have to go with you can, and you cannot.

2019-09-04 05:02:52 UTC  

When proposing a binary question like that with which we have no answer, we go to Schrodinger's theory.

2019-09-04 05:03:55 UTC  

Lets just say

2019-09-04 05:04:06 UTC  

You can do science being aware that you're doing it or being unaware that you're doing it

2019-09-04 05:04:15 UTC  

The key is, are you pursuing knowledge or not

2019-09-04 05:04:46 UTC  

It's almost as if when you dream, at least to yourself because you know (pretty much at least when you wake up because thats then the "real" reality) you were dreaming, there's a Myriad of things to dream and within could change in an instant depending on whatever.

2019-09-04 05:05:42 UTC  

Myriad is not a noun

2019-09-04 05:05:54 UTC  

But u right there's other ppl to ask the question to

2019-09-04 05:06:29 UTC  

Yes it is lol

2019-09-04 05:06:57 UTC  

No, myriad is synonymous with "many"
You do not have "a" many of things. You have many things, as you have myriad things.

2019-09-04 05:07:44 UTC  

Myriad is meant to be used as "many and diverse"