nigel farage show just started... just be some interesting calls

Unless it's hot. Then I'll sit in the living room and daydream.

daydreaming and paperbooks are healthy until kids graduate to more indepth material which requires the internet

otherwise, values are dead

Internet access has always changed the way I live my life, @ManAnimal, and it's completely reversible. When I have access to the internet, I spend less time watching TV and more time reading. I interact with people more. I spend less time playing games and more time tinkering under the hood. I learn more.

giving kids access to everything without having them have to 'earn it' first simply makes them think they understand the world at the cost of what really matters

When internet access goes away, I revert back to how I was without internet.

Then I get internet and I'm back to reading again.

it isn't completely reversible

there is a cost

you just can't see it because your parents paid that cost too; maybe not you in particular but MOST millenials

I've been two weeks without a computer, just this year alone.

I played with animals and watched Jerry fucking Springer, because that's what everyone else was watching. Once my computer was up, I was churning through news articles and picking up new information.

there is a disctinct difference between those that grew up constantly connected vs those that didnot

those that were constantly connected were always EXTREMELY easy to fool

and were only as good as the material of others that they digested

with a very shallow understanding of that material

lol

Indoctrination and cultish bullshit doesn't rely on internet access. In fact, it's often easier without internet access because you can go unchecked for far longer.

it does

No it doesn’t

you have been indoctrinated too

It’s not easier

All the big banks and multinational corporations: we must remain in the EU
remainers: these brexiteers are just greedy bankers
...?

like the indoctrinated EVER is aware of their indocrination

False info is rampant all the time

America has always had a problem with nasty cults and political brainwashing.

The internet just leaves a crack in the window, where a lucky few might find their way out.

it is not easier ONLY with a certain type

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBrVN7OugFs

you might not be that type but at least HALF your peers are

Look at mr obvious. He did a vid talking about how Hong Kong is winning and that this is the end for China. No it’s not

that is the point, the rules are for the majority in the middle

they are to keep the fringes in check

but if the middle dismisses those rules, so do those on the fringe

I agree it makes it easier to check facts but not many do

no, it makes it easy to cast DOUBT on any fact

proof via evidence takes time and energy

ABC, CBS, and NBC all had to settle lawsuits with car manufacturers.

They were apparently sticking rockets/explosives in the cars before a crash test, and then saying the cars were dangerous. You won't find this out if your only access to information is what people tell you, or what you see on the TV.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-02-10-mn-1335-story.html

Imagine having daughters taller than you as the father lmao

and 90% of the time you need to first CONVINCE someone to take the time to EXAMINE that evidence

otherwise, you just end up providing them with ammo to listen to what soupports their position and filter the rest

If you get your information from the TV, or from people you talk to, then you'll probably think GM fucked up super hard and made a car that's dangerous. If you get your information from the internet, it only takes one sperg to share an LA times article about how they had to settle in court because they done fucked up.

echo chambers 101

the tv is just as bad