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Don't we all

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What's this about Labour accusing the US of wanting to buy the NHS? So the US government is going to buy a foreign universal healthcare system and maintain it for them?

serbians are like wolves. they are savage, and everyone wants to shoot them

even if it was believable, I question why the US would want our healthcare when they already have their own, not like the NHS is profitable after all.

Labour is retarded.

Wouldn't be the first accusation they pulled out of thin air

We don't lol

You should come to Belgium, enjoy our socialist programs and help us pretend we're not drowning in debt

Beautiful

Shame that so many fall for the siren call of socialism

Only to crash and drown in debt

but it's ok as long as it's just the country that's in debt, riiiight?

It looks to me like the people in favour of this are just focused on the 'now' effects of socialism, not realising how self destructive it is over time

Hold up

Fancy seeing you here ald

Or aware of the fact that the government is capable of being corrupt

Oh hey Llee

Fancy meeting you here

Yeah that's the biggest problem of all really, it's putting way too much faith in governments that have a proven track record of working for their own benefit

Isn't socialism the process and communism is the "utopian" end result?

Not quite

They're similar in concept but two different things

Ah.

They both end in the same way though

Yup

Do both of them emphasize the "workers owning the means of production"? Whatever that means.

That's only communism I believe

But yet again, that doesn't actually ever happen as the govt owns any and all businesses

then you get people claiming they'll dismantle the government, yet somehow be able to get people to cooperate without a governing display of force

Isn't that one of the biggest problems with anarchy?

Anarchy is no government at all

anarchy is great if you can't think more than one step ahead.

I was referring to Dragon's comment about how if the government is somehow dismantled, then there will be a huge power vacuum that will quickly be filled.

Yup

Most likely by the military.

Hello fellow immigrants

Allo