Message from @ZX
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> socialism isn't a good idea at all, capitalism probably has flaws but it seems the better option
And here you had such opportunity. Then you said a meme like that.
hows that a meme there are also capitalist elite as well as socalist elite
mark zuckerburg is a socialist elite and alan sugar is a capitalist elite
Imagine not realising there's a third position
Quite sad.
will you be voting for the communist party of britain
The tories are playing it up this time
Guns blazing
labours policy is remain vs remain
Stop thinking the world is so binary.
What's the third option?
Anarchism? Fascism?
Binary thinkers cannot be pragmatic.
Fascism @ZX
Hm
fascism is dead in britain
I somewhat regret pasting parts of the doctrine of fascism here... it seems to have had the opposite effect I was going for 😛
only left wing fascism exists
Under the name of "Fascism" it's dead.
Fascism is an inherently bad idea because it pits the interests of the state against the interests of the people
The concept though? Alive and well.
> because it pits the interests of the state against the interests of the people
False.
Explain how it does that?
are there any fascists in history that did not deep dive into becoming a socialist?
Mosley
he started as a socialist no?
Then moved towards Syndiclism
Which I don't really consider to be socialism.
It should be self evident in how fascism simultaneously claims to have an active state (read, the state as a moral actor) and also has one of its benefits being that it can switch whether it allows for a free market or controls the market depending on what is best for the state
By the state, they mean the moral actor, the governing body
And why is that a bad thing? @ZX
By the governing body they mean the one-party leadership that makes everything centered around the war effort in order to compete with other nations militarily.
In the instances when they were at war, sure.
Fascism is based on the idea that everything must be within the state; nothing outside or against it.
But that's simply a wartime economy.
Any ideology can and does have that.
Dude, the fascist states of Europe literally started World War II
And the ones after it?
No second world war then?
Which ones?