one thing to remember when talking about the budget is that the left routinely conflates the *discretionary budget* with total government spending.

doing so completely omits virtually all social spending from the discussion, and magnifies defense spending to seem like virtually all money is spent on it.

We should strive to eliminate all waste and smaller targets are generally easier to hit

Big foot will adapt or die like ever species that has ever exististed has

the left wants you to see this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Diagram_of_the_proposed_2018_United_States_federal_budget.png

when actually it is this:
https://i.imgur.com/r3Mdcgc.png

(note that interest on the debt is almost the same as defense spending)

@Tiberius https://www.thenation.com/article/snapshots-bloated-military-budget/

Our military spending is bloated

We just need to conquer some rich nation to pay it off

Maybe we SHOULDN’T be fighting in the ME

Put that money to better use

Such as infrastructure

I agree we need to rather permanently occupy, annex or just leave it alone

If the entire military budget was eliminated, as in every last soldier laid off, every base closed, every procurement program cancelled, we'd still have a deficit of over $100B/year.

Plus a ton of people would be out of work

Its funny that graphic is hilariously inaccurate and has no sources other than "our institue said so" gtfoh

Alright neocon <:tiptip:462282246695419934>

Heaven forbid we even decrease military spending by 1-2%

It might even be the end of the world

Heaven forbid we leave the Middle East

Conquer a rich country to pay it off? Modern warfare has a way of leveling cities, turning infrastructure into ruins and children into orphans

But hey, fuck it, the idea of dismantling nations sounds fun

Even if it costs us

The sounds of machine gun fire, a nation cries out in pain as it’s snuffed out but artillery fire

its a joke

@Doomed world Wolf Blitzer disagrees

Imagine calling someone a neocon because they think you are wrong about something one can in fact argue against war in the middle east AND maintaining current readiness without being a neocon.

1-2% is negligible as far as a cut goes and if it truly was "bloated" you would be asking for a larger cut, fucking hack.

@Snake sound like my last game of Civ 5

Nice

@Doomed world Ye Ik I just wanted to explain the sounds of war b/c I was daydreaming

I mean war is pretty good for creating economic miracles

WW II did pull us out of the depression

Which was extended by Roosevelt and the failure that is progressivism

An idea would be to just cut off giving away free money to Nato Countries and the middle east

Then we cut expenditures AND still have the biggest "fuck off" stick on earth.

cutting sources of outgoing money should definitely be considered, generally

on a case by case basis of course

Nah

Fuck em all