Message from @randomNPCno3
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i lost respect for dan cathy after hearing today that they bowed the knee to leftists instead of standing to his company principles(yes, i'm salty)
Well, I mean how else would you impose it lawfully?
Not at all
No term limits
Term limits need to be a thing
No they don't
Fix your ideology
You have to have a regular challenge of power
"No term limits" is one of those things where it sounds good until the other side gets in power
@randomNPCno3 there is a regular challenge of power...we call them elections
Demographics determine who will get that power. Who cares about term limits if they will vote for more of the same? And what ideology do all the demographics root for?
Could say the same about elections in China. They have them. Doesn't mean much
@hiddendjinn why have elections if there's no term limits?
yeah, this pendulum swing shit is getting a little out of hand
I'm gonna watch Nick Fuentes, later boomers
@randomNPCno3 at any election cycle, in a free system, the incumbent can be voted out
Honestly, I understand it as a heuristic, but I've come to see the whole "demographics as destiny" thing as being kinda racist, and not in the SJW REEEE EVERYTHING IS RACIST, MATH IS RACIST way, I mean just plain old dictionary racism, as it presumes a person's identity is deterministic of their ideology when we have examples to the contrary. The only one that might be relevant is class.
But even then ...
the only thing stopping that is an apathetic electorate
Which, let's be honest, there are a lot of reasons why the electorate are apathetic.
The point is that term limits take the decision to step down out of the incumbents hands, how much biased support do you think a lifetime president has when they've ran a country by giving positions to friends. What's a good country without term limits?
Need Ranked Choice Voting too
and when the electorate is apathetic, what does it matter? they reap what they sow
Cuz it affects the rest of us
Ranked Choice would make people feel like they're voting for who they actually want, rather than the lesser evil
do something to make people care?
I mean, I do my part, but ...
I would say that demographics are important but not in the way that either SJWs nor Groyper's pretend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9zH1dWeKE0
Note I used a 5 minute not 5 hour vid....
I think demographics are important in terms of where to focus attention, but doesn't say anything meaningful about individuals and thus can't be the basis of policy
if you're talking about PRC, they haven't had meaningful elections in 70+ years
I thought their elections were whoever ran out of bullets first?
My point exactly. How many terms would FDR have lasted if he didn't die in office?
but if you're talking about the US, grassroots campaigning is going to be the only way to create any affect on the political landscape
And if the electorate votes for term limits?
if the electorate votes for term limits, let us have term limits
So far as I'm aware, most people want that, just the establishment politicians don't
i do remember when i lived in arkansas and they put term limits on state legislators...things got more corrupt, not less
I don't see why that would be the case. Sounds like an outlier, just like Kansas getting rid of taxes causing problems.
@Marushia Dark it left lobbyists as the only long time denizens of the state house
For the state budget maybe, but not for the state at large