Message from @Tiberius

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2019-11-19 02:13:20 UTC  

i'd even argue that the disproportionate level of black violent crime is less a race issue and more an issue of class warfare fought at the government level, then the consequences of such

2019-11-19 02:13:36 UTC  

I'd agree with that

2019-11-19 02:13:37 UTC  

All animals enjoy violence to certain extent

2019-11-19 02:13:52 UTC  

Parrots will bite you because it's fun when you scream.

2019-11-19 02:15:05 UTC  

At heart we are a Darwinist nation. We bring the most outrageous from the rest of the planet and let them compete. The winners define us.

2019-11-19 02:15:30 UTC  

Which country are you referring to?

2019-11-19 02:15:35 UTC  

Only the winners. Only the best.

2019-11-19 02:18:49 UTC  

Mass immigration isn't good for the economy or the social integrity. Just the mere shock of all these new immigrants, illegal or not, they aren't properly assimilated.

2019-11-19 02:19:58 UTC  

Mediterranean, anglo, german, nordic people even some people from Asia and mexico they can all come but it's about actually melting in the melting pot.

2019-11-19 02:19:59 UTC  

Sure so legal and controlled immigration should be the goal.

2019-11-19 02:20:20 UTC  

I have never argued against that.

2019-11-19 02:20:32 UTC  

Here's the thing

2019-11-19 02:20:45 UTC  

I was just making this argument to Daisy Cousens yesterday that we need to start reframing conservative arguments in leftist language. My view of late is that mass migration is exploitation, since we're robbing the "best and brightest," creating brain drain, leaving conditions in their homelands worse, creating a cascading downward spiral and more coming here, straining our resources when we should be keeping the pressure on for them to stay and fix things there so they don't have to come here.

2019-11-19 02:21:26 UTC  

Reframing conservative arguments in leftist language is what's losing the culture war for the conservatives FULL STOP because they in the hubris lose the concepts

2019-11-19 02:21:52 UTC  

Oh I am in favor of brain drain. We should steal the brightest and most capable people from the planet and make them Americans.

2019-11-19 02:21:52 UTC  

My experience has been the exact opposite

2019-11-19 02:22:01 UTC  

When they say mass shootings they dont mean bangers murdering children in drive bys

2019-11-19 02:22:41 UTC  

Speaking a common language is the ONLY way we win. Like that episode of Star Trek with something-something-when-the-walls-fell or whatever

2019-11-19 02:22:42 UTC  

@Tiberius but when they parrot statistics of mass shootings, they include those in the numbers

2019-11-19 02:22:43 UTC  

They mean when the pasty beta white kid that everyone treats like shit finally snaps

2019-11-19 02:23:01 UTC  

The third world is where WW3 is going to be fought.

2019-11-19 02:23:06 UTC  

Some mass shooting stats dont even include those

2019-11-19 02:23:12 UTC  

We cheat. It is why we win. We take the best freom the rest of the world and make them us.

2019-11-19 02:23:23 UTC  

It's where the influence between China and the US is going to manifest into violence

2019-11-19 02:23:31 UTC  

We're losing the culture war cuz we don't know how to weaponize pathos the way they can. We're fighting Queensbury Rules while they're popping grenades on medics.

2019-11-19 02:23:49 UTC  

just as when a gun grabber quotes shooting statistics, they also count suicides

2019-11-19 02:23:51 UTC  

To quote Bill Whittle

2019-11-19 02:24:15 UTC  

If you wanted to win the culture war your 20 years too late.

2019-11-19 02:24:39 UTC  

Not hardly

2019-11-19 02:24:40 UTC  

My problem with the left is that they do not include the part where we *make them us*, They want to take them in then make *us them*.

2019-11-19 02:24:42 UTC  

this is a 100-years war

2019-11-19 02:25:19 UTC  

Yeah and your nearly 70 years late.

2019-11-19 02:25:38 UTC  

There are no shortage of problems with the left. Not sure if you noticed, I'm center right; but I used to be one of them and listen when they talk and understand better than most how to weaponize pathos in a Rules for Radicals sort of way

2019-11-19 02:25:39 UTC  

What do you mean weaponize pathos?

2019-11-19 02:25:43 UTC  

What does that mean?

2019-11-19 02:25:50 UTC  

When the logos is corrupt?

2019-11-19 02:26:16 UTC  

My Gr. Granpaw left Germany to become American. His son fought the German in WWII. He *became* American. That should be the goal of any migration policy.

2019-11-19 02:26:29 UTC  

^

2019-11-19 02:27:29 UTC  

I can't post images here, that would help simplify, but basically weaponizing feelz, turning their own arguments against them. Facts don't care about your feelings, but facts also don't matter to persuasion, and it's ultimately our goal to persuade people to our way of thinking, yes? Cuz the only alternative is violence. So facts matter to outcomes but not to persuasion. People can't hear the sound of 2+2=4 over their perception of you as a Nazi.

2019-11-19 02:28:18 UTC  

Facts actually do matter to persuasion and its important to always bring them up