For no gain.

It needs better laws and institutions, not better policing

People that want to commit a crime here are going to find a way to do it regardless, Having guns won't enable them if they will find an alternative route if guns are not an option

Okay? So why make firearms more accessible? @The Electric Lizard

I think that was proved by the homemade SMG

What it would do is allow people to defend themselves when someone decides to commit a crime

The police are an instatusions arnt they

They’ll just steal them from people.

Means they have MORE weapons.

Thus reducing the death toll

The police are an institution, policing is an action

I guess

We have problems with the police and the judicial system, along with the laws and priorities

Your argument provides me with justification for not having them @The Electric Lizard

“They’re going to break the law to get them” So they will steal them from law abiding people

Meaning they have more access to firearms

They do this already

Yeah.

And think about increasing the amount of firearms in circulation.

If an armed individual were to halt the process of the robbery

They’re going to do it MORE

The crisis is averted

Crimes will happen no matter what our policy on guns is so we should at least ensure that innocent civilians are given guns to ensure that when said person commits a crime their victims can defend themselves

We should ensure less people die.

More guns, more deaths.

So?

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More guns does not equate to more death

If the people dying are criminals killed in self defence by their victims why is that a bad thing?

"ensuring less people die" shouldn't be the primary motivation

Gunshot compared to knife wounds? @AMERIJESUS

Gunshot compared to “acid” ?

Most gunshot victims in the United States pull through

A knife is far more dangerous in close quarters

A gunshot has a much higher chance of killing someone

Chest, head, artery.

They’re likely dead.

And a knife can cause irreversible damage to organs and arteries

I can survive a cut to the face and head, I can’t a gunshot.

You won’t survive a knife through the neck

One gives me a scar, one sends my brains out the back of my skull