Message from @Nathan James 123
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At the moment Britain needs better policing than the right to bear arms
That would increase
For no gain.
It needs better laws and institutions, not better policing
People that want to commit a crime here are going to find a way to do it regardless, Having guns won't enable them if they will find an alternative route if guns are not an option
Okay? So why make firearms more accessible? @The Electric Lizard
I think that was proved by the homemade SMG
What it would do is allow people to defend themselves when someone decides to commit a crime
The police are an instatusions arnt they
They’ll just steal them from people.
Means they have MORE weapons.
Thus reducing the death toll
The police are an institution, policing is an action
I guess
We have problems with the police and the judicial system, along with the laws and priorities
Your argument provides me with justification for not having them @The Electric Lizard
“They’re going to break the law to get them” So they will steal them from law abiding people
Meaning they have more access to firearms
They do this already
Yeah.
If an armed individual were to halt the process of the robbery
They’re going to do it MORE
The crisis is averted
Crimes will happen no matter what our policy on guns is so we should at least ensure that innocent civilians are given guns to ensure that when said person commits a crime their victims can defend themselves
We should ensure less people die.
More guns, more deaths.
So?
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More guns does not equate to more death
If the people dying are criminals killed in self defence by their victims why is that a bad thing?
"ensuring less people die" shouldn't be the primary motivation
Gunshot compared to knife wounds? @AMERIJESUS
Gunshot compared to “acid” ?
Most gunshot victims in the United States pull through
A knife is far more dangerous in close quarters
A gunshot has a much higher chance of killing someone
Chest, head, artery.
They’re likely dead.
And a knife can cause irreversible damage to organs and arteries
I can survive a cut to the face and head, I can’t a gunshot.