Message from @sirwoods

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2019-11-14 22:31:35 UTC  

I agree there and we should stand for our people's interest but when you say aggressively it sounds like you mean something like using the millitary and I don't think that is necessary

2019-11-14 22:31:51 UTC  

We certainly should be looking to use the miltary

2019-11-14 22:32:00 UTC  

I completely disagree haha

2019-11-14 22:32:02 UTC  

That's one of the best tools we have

2019-11-14 22:32:28 UTC  

We have a high tech military, our economy benefits from war since we have a large arms export industry as well

2019-11-14 22:32:47 UTC  

can you provide an example ?

2019-11-14 22:32:58 UTC  
2019-11-14 22:32:59 UTC  

So what invade France?

2019-11-14 22:33:07 UTC  

aggressive influence with our military

2019-11-14 22:33:16 UTC  

Hard and soft power.

2019-11-14 22:33:26 UTC  

No lmao @sirwoods

2019-11-14 22:33:40 UTC  

I'm not sure what you mean by use the military then

2019-11-14 22:33:51 UTC  

Gunboat diplomacy?

2019-11-14 22:33:54 UTC  

Maybe we look for some African countries which are in a civil war. We end that. We gain the support of that government and benefits

2019-11-14 22:34:00 UTC  

To an extent as well @sirwoods

2019-11-14 22:34:25 UTC  

So empire? Start an empire to be more powerful and be stronger?

2019-11-14 22:34:25 UTC  

While negotiating trade deals having a carrier strike force floating near wouldn't be a bad thing

2019-11-14 22:34:27 UTC  

so like world police style?

2019-11-14 22:34:34 UTC  
2019-11-14 22:34:58 UTC  

We can use both hard and soft power to kick start that

2019-11-14 22:35:06 UTC  

I disagree I don't think we need to start an empire to remain free

2019-11-14 22:35:15 UTC  

We need to agressively be pushing debt diplomacy abroad as well

2019-11-14 22:35:31 UTC  

Then die under the thumb of China. @sirwoods

2019-11-14 22:35:33 UTC  

can you imagine the international outrage if the uk started invading african nations to sort their shit out

2019-11-14 22:35:37 UTC  

Who is doing exactly what I've said.

2019-11-14 22:35:37 UTC  

we cant even sort our own shit out

2019-11-14 22:35:51 UTC  

I don't see why if anything that will be an economic burden

2019-11-14 22:35:58 UTC  

*Intervening* to bring a bloody, brutal civil war to an end? @Crafty

2019-11-14 22:36:11 UTC  

Pushing regional stability and growth.

2019-11-14 22:36:24 UTC  

If china gets worse you will just get cold war 2 and then we back the US

2019-11-14 22:36:27 UTC  

Allowing the peoples in that country to recover, grow and develop.

2019-11-14 22:36:39 UTC  

sounds noble on the face of it, pretty sure it's more complicated than that

2019-11-14 22:36:48 UTC  

We're already in cold war 2.0 @sirwoods

2019-11-14 22:37:00 UTC  

That's the justification we use, that's what others use @Crafty

2019-11-14 22:37:11 UTC  

And to an extent it will be true

2019-11-14 22:37:34 UTC  

it's not exactly got the best track record

2019-11-14 22:37:40 UTC  

this type of thing

2019-11-14 22:37:45 UTC  

I don't think we are in coldwar 2, I think it might be on its way but not yet

2019-11-14 22:38:10 UTC  

Meh, doesn't matter as long as it benefits us @Crafty

2019-11-14 22:38:41 UTC  

China is actively sending cyber attacks to us

2019-11-14 22:38:48 UTC  

Actively stealing our intellectual property