Message from @sirwoods

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2019-11-14 22:34:27 UTC  

so like world police style?

2019-11-14 22:34:34 UTC  
2019-11-14 22:34:58 UTC  

We can use both hard and soft power to kick start that

2019-11-14 22:35:06 UTC  

I disagree I don't think we need to start an empire to remain free

2019-11-14 22:35:15 UTC  

We need to agressively be pushing debt diplomacy abroad as well

2019-11-14 22:35:31 UTC  

Then die under the thumb of China. @sirwoods

2019-11-14 22:35:33 UTC  

can you imagine the international outrage if the uk started invading african nations to sort their shit out

2019-11-14 22:35:37 UTC  

Who is doing exactly what I've said.

2019-11-14 22:35:37 UTC  

we cant even sort our own shit out

2019-11-14 22:35:51 UTC  

I don't see why if anything that will be an economic burden

2019-11-14 22:35:58 UTC  

*Intervening* to bring a bloody, brutal civil war to an end? @Crafty

2019-11-14 22:36:11 UTC  

Pushing regional stability and growth.

2019-11-14 22:36:24 UTC  

If china gets worse you will just get cold war 2 and then we back the US

2019-11-14 22:36:27 UTC  

Allowing the peoples in that country to recover, grow and develop.

2019-11-14 22:36:39 UTC  

sounds noble on the face of it, pretty sure it's more complicated than that

2019-11-14 22:36:48 UTC  

We're already in cold war 2.0 @sirwoods

2019-11-14 22:37:00 UTC  

That's the justification we use, that's what others use @Crafty

2019-11-14 22:37:11 UTC  

And to an extent it will be true

2019-11-14 22:37:34 UTC  

it's not exactly got the best track record

2019-11-14 22:37:40 UTC  

this type of thing

2019-11-14 22:37:45 UTC  

I don't think we are in coldwar 2, I think it might be on its way but not yet

2019-11-14 22:38:10 UTC  

Meh, doesn't matter as long as it benefits us @Crafty

2019-11-14 22:38:41 UTC  

China is actively sending cyber attacks to us

2019-11-14 22:38:48 UTC  

Actively stealing our intellectual property

2019-11-14 22:39:05 UTC  

Agressively investing in the UK in key strategic sectors like energy

2019-11-14 22:39:12 UTC  

so in short, Little Britain > Big Britain?

2019-11-14 22:39:29 UTC  

Big Britain through agressive means

2019-11-14 22:39:46 UTC  

Empire 2.0 doesn't need to be annexation of land

2019-11-14 22:39:57 UTC  

It can be heavily favourable trade deals

2019-11-14 22:40:15 UTC  

It can be a few strategic military bases in the region

2019-11-14 22:40:22 UTC  

It can be political capital in countries, etc.

2019-11-14 22:40:42 UTC  

Sure china is inflicting but that goes on between nations all the time, it's not like they are about to steamroll Europe

2019-11-14 22:41:01 UTC  

Lookup the belt and road initiative @sirwoods

2019-11-14 22:41:07 UTC  

cant listen to nats shit, outta here

2019-11-14 22:41:31 UTC  

And what happens when we go yeah this is ours now china?

2019-11-14 22:41:42 UTC  

If they start messing with us

2019-11-14 22:41:50 UTC  

They're already messing with us

2019-11-14 22:42:01 UTC  

Then let's take their shit

2019-11-14 22:42:27 UTC  

And get ourselves into a better position through agressive debt diplomacy

2019-11-14 22:42:35 UTC  

And political influence abroad

2019-11-14 22:43:40 UTC  

So it's bad enough that we should start an empire but not that we can't confiscate their assets in the UK?