Message from @sirwoods
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Yeah I can see that argument
You can't just ignore the geopolitical power game
Putting the state in such an advantageous position over all others, which is serving the interests of the people at the same time
The geopolitical power game is states trying to do just that, what I said.
Yeah I object to it and think it's bad but so is war, there are times where both are necessary for the good of your nations citizens
If you ignore the power game and get weak you get invaded and your people suffer
Even if it's not necessary for survival, we should be doing it anyway
Agressively.
I disagree
We should always be looking to gain the superior position over other countries.
That best serves the people and state
I disagree I think it's important to be in a position to defend yourself but I disagree with power for powers sake
I thought you wanted to be in the best position for your people though?
I want my people to be free
They can be
We can still be aggressively influencing other countries abroad
I don't think it's necessary at the moment at least for the UK
Why? Now we need it more than ever
The UK is economically weakened and will struggle after Brexit
We need to be pushing HARD to mediate the damage we take
I agree there and we should stand for our people's interest but when you say aggressively it sounds like you mean something like using the millitary and I don't think that is necessary
We certainly should be looking to use the miltary
I completely disagree haha
That's one of the best tools we have
We have a high tech military, our economy benefits from war since we have a large arms export industry as well
can you provide an example ?
On? @Crafty
So what invade France?
aggressive influence with our military
Hard and soft power.
No lmao @sirwoods
I'm not sure what you mean by use the military then
Gunboat diplomacy?
Maybe we look for some African countries which are in a civil war. We end that. We gain the support of that government and benefits
To an extent as well @sirwoods
So empire? Start an empire to be more powerful and be stronger?
While negotiating trade deals having a carrier strike force floating near wouldn't be a bad thing
so like world police style?
We can use both hard and soft power to kick start that
I disagree I don't think we need to start an empire to remain free