Message from @sirwoods

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2019-11-14 22:24:18 UTC  

Do you not care about your country or state?

2019-11-14 22:24:42 UTC  

I do but I believe that a government should serve its people

2019-11-14 22:24:59 UTC  

I can see an argument for such tactics for national security

2019-11-14 22:25:03 UTC  

The best way that can be done is through taxation and an agressive foreign policy

2019-11-14 22:25:18 UTC  

Yeah I can see that argument

2019-11-14 22:25:39 UTC  

You can't just ignore the geopolitical power game

2019-11-14 22:25:39 UTC  

Putting the state in such an advantageous position over all others, which is serving the interests of the people at the same time

2019-11-14 22:25:59 UTC  

The geopolitical power game is states trying to do just that, what I said.

2019-11-14 22:26:41 UTC  

Yeah I object to it and think it's bad but so is war, there are times where both are necessary for the good of your nations citizens

2019-11-14 22:27:08 UTC  

If you ignore the power game and get weak you get invaded and your people suffer

2019-11-14 22:27:36 UTC  

Even if it's not necessary for survival, we should be doing it anyway

2019-11-14 22:27:39 UTC  

Agressively.

2019-11-14 22:27:44 UTC  

I disagree

2019-11-14 22:28:00 UTC  

We should always be looking to gain the superior position over other countries.

2019-11-14 22:28:10 UTC  

That best serves the people and state

2019-11-14 22:28:43 UTC  

I disagree I think it's important to be in a position to defend yourself but I disagree with power for powers sake

2019-11-14 22:29:12 UTC  

I thought you wanted to be in the best position for your people though?

2019-11-14 22:29:26 UTC  

I want my people to be free

2019-11-14 22:29:35 UTC  

They can be

2019-11-14 22:29:46 UTC  

We can still be aggressively influencing other countries abroad

2019-11-14 22:30:05 UTC  

I don't think it's necessary at the moment at least for the UK

2019-11-14 22:30:17 UTC  

Why? Now we need it more than ever

2019-11-14 22:30:31 UTC  

The UK is economically weakened and will struggle after Brexit

2019-11-14 22:30:44 UTC  

We need to be pushing HARD to mediate the damage we take

2019-11-14 22:31:35 UTC  

I agree there and we should stand for our people's interest but when you say aggressively it sounds like you mean something like using the millitary and I don't think that is necessary

2019-11-14 22:31:51 UTC  

We certainly should be looking to use the miltary

2019-11-14 22:32:00 UTC  

I completely disagree haha

2019-11-14 22:32:02 UTC  

That's one of the best tools we have

2019-11-14 22:32:28 UTC  

We have a high tech military, our economy benefits from war since we have a large arms export industry as well

2019-11-14 22:32:47 UTC  

can you provide an example ?

2019-11-14 22:32:58 UTC  
2019-11-14 22:32:59 UTC  

So what invade France?

2019-11-14 22:33:07 UTC  

aggressive influence with our military

2019-11-14 22:33:16 UTC  

Hard and soft power.

2019-11-14 22:33:26 UTC  

No lmao @sirwoods

2019-11-14 22:33:40 UTC  

I'm not sure what you mean by use the military then

2019-11-14 22:33:51 UTC  

Gunboat diplomacy?

2019-11-14 22:33:54 UTC  

Maybe we look for some African countries which are in a civil war. We end that. We gain the support of that government and benefits

2019-11-14 22:34:00 UTC  

To an extent as well @sirwoods

2019-11-14 22:34:25 UTC  

So empire? Start an empire to be more powerful and be stronger?

2019-11-14 22:34:25 UTC  

While negotiating trade deals having a carrier strike force floating near wouldn't be a bad thing