My thought is still the same, mentorship from an example of a healthy relationship can tip the scales towards seeking a healthy relationship, instead of only having the example of a single parent. Also i think it is important to be honest with your children, that single parenting is less than ideal, instead of putting yourself up as a hero, as many single moms do these days.

I can super relate to that @Deleted User

Both with her focus and efficiency of raising us and with the emotional baggage my brother and I had because of it.

I'm sure most single mom raised kids can.

my parents are still married.

I think she would have left if she succeeded at turning us against our father though. He wasn't involved very much in day to day stuff, and she tried to make it out like he was the source of all negativity in the house.

Don't tell your dad, or he will get mad at me was a common phrase

Ahhh

his best example to me was keeping a marriage was of utmost imprtance, even if it turns into something you didn't expect. You have kids, its not about you anymore.

Yeah it kinda sucks if marriage turns sour and you only stick around for the kids though.

For me I would stick around until kids left house. Then ciao.

Its worse to disolve the marriage, imo.

Eh

I disagree. Toxic relationship between parents probably bad example than a complete lack of relationship.

I agree with the last sentence.

Once the kids are grown, cya

Lol

Well it doesn't matter if that is the end thing. Honestly that's your responsibility whether you like your wife/baby mama or not.

he's a man of principle, if to a fault. You start something, you finish it. You dont get to back down because it got sour.

Yeah that is Fair.

You gotta be. "Man up" so to speak.

A bit of advice would have been good though, something along the lines of "don't marry a woman like your mother"

But speaking ill, even honestly, of any family member was blasphemy.

pointing out things wrong with anything was blasphemy, tbh.

Wonderful discourse, gentlemen!! 😀

What attributes do you think a man should possess?

A job

Money

And sperm

Ambition. Conviction and bravery to defend values. Everything else follows that.

And not to be picky but i also like a sense of humor

I'd rather be a smart man than a funny one. But if brainless humor is your thing, by all means. 😬

Id way rather humor. No 1 likes a know it all.

Braun over brains any day

Being intelligent is not same as being know it all. Go on naked and afraid and tell me you pick the comic over the industrial engineer and I'll enjoy the fuck out of that episode.

Theres pragmatism behind both. Ultimately humor is intelligence driven so I guess were saying same thing. *shrug*

I was just using it in the proverbial sense.

Ur not even listening to what im saying so i wont bother saying more

Ok

Lol that's way to have discourse

Well why bother if the other person is not even hearing you. No point.