Message from @Monstrous Moonshine

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2019-11-09 04:56:43 UTC  

a lot of people have this idea in their heads that the government should, and is able to, fix almost every problem

2019-11-09 04:57:26 UTC  

most on the alt right are basically 1940's progressives

2019-11-09 04:57:39 UTC  

but with a racial spin on things

2019-11-09 05:00:11 UTC  

The progressives were cancer. FDR likely the worst of them, I mean, when they amend the constitution to make sure that nobody ever becomes what you were......

2019-11-09 05:01:22 UTC  

There was no term limit before that. Normal decent Americans just assumed that no president would think he was greater than Washington.

2019-11-09 05:15:35 UTC  

@Coolitic When did we make fun of Trad cons? They are the closest to the Dissident Right among general Conservatives.

2019-11-09 05:17:35 UTC  

"Conservatism" of TPUSA and Conservative Inc. is a mix of Classical Liberalism and Neoconservatism

2019-11-09 05:18:16 UTC  

Whereas the Dissident Right is a mix of Paleoconservatives, Reactionaries, Third Positionists etc.

2019-11-09 05:20:53 UTC  

I doubt you even know what NeoCons are. If you did you would recognize that they are closer to the third position than any of those you oppose.

2019-11-09 05:21:22 UTC  

They aren't closer to Third Position lmao

2019-11-09 05:22:07 UTC  

They are rebranded Trotskyites who favor military intervention and LARP as milquetoast Conservatives for votes

2019-11-09 05:22:22 UTC  

McCain would be a good example

2019-11-09 05:22:27 UTC  

You say this because 'NeoCon' in your mind is synonomous with 'Republican I do not like'

2019-11-09 05:22:35 UTC  

Not really

2019-11-09 05:23:14 UTC  

Yes really. The focus on foreign policy is the tell here. NeoCon domestic policy is not far from your own.

2019-11-09 05:24:03 UTC  

They sought to bring authoritarianism under the guise of religion. You seek the same under the guise of nationalism. But really it is just a variation on a theme.

2019-11-09 05:25:32 UTC  

LMAO

2019-11-09 05:25:33 UTC  

Even unto the point of nationalism. I've yet to see your lot defend the nation of Ukraine for instance. Like the NeoCons it is merely a convenient moniker to defend an immoral position.

2019-11-09 05:26:33 UTC  

> Paleoconservatives support restrictions on immigration, decentralization, trade tariffs and protectionism, economic nationalism, isolationism and a return to traditional conservative ideals relating to gender, ethnicity, and race. Paleoconservatism differs from neoconservatism in opposing free trade and promoting Republicanism in the United States. Paleoconservatives see neoconservatives as empire-builders and themselves as defenders of the republic.

2019-11-09 05:26:56 UTC  

Pretty much the opposite

2019-11-09 05:27:19 UTC  

> As with other conservatives, paleoconservatives tend to oppose abortion on demand, oppose LGBTQ rights, oppose welfare, and gay marriage, while supporting handgun ownership.

2019-11-09 05:28:54 UTC  

You should read *Leviathan on the Right* the most extensive critique of NeoCons as an ideology. The similarities between them and the 'dissident right' are alarming.

I'll note here I restricted this critique to the third position and not paleos (who are wrong for different reasons) but you ducked into that anyway.......

2019-11-09 05:32:43 UTC  

FWIW the paleos are wrong because they place culture downstream of politics. Which is also why the PoMos are wrong. The state cannot dictate civil society. And when you pass moralist laws you do not make moral people. You make something worse. You make people deprived of the opportunity to make moral decisions because they only act moraly out of fear of reprisal.

2019-11-09 05:37:14 UTC  

You make moral **cowards**

2019-11-09 05:58:46 UTC  

True

2019-11-09 06:02:44 UTC  

culture is downstream of race

2019-11-09 06:46:33 UTC  

HAHAHAHA. Racially I am German. There are more people in the Wehr phonebook with my last name than in my home town. Culturally I have more in common with a random dude at the 7/11 buying coffe and milk in the morning.

2019-11-09 09:20:41 UTC  

>gets a day nobody will know about

2019-11-09 09:20:56 UTC  

>liking the taste of your own genitals on another person gets a whole month

2019-11-09 11:01:26 UTC  

Will Chamberlain, the guy who was smearing Fuentes just a few days ago comes out in support of Fuentes against Shapiro

2019-11-09 11:01:31 UTC  

Grift 100

2019-11-09 14:17:27 UTC  

‘Reverse Pol Pot’: Berkeley philosophy lecturer slammed after saying rural Americans made ‘bad life decisions’ & should be SHAMED https://www.rt.com/usa/472995-rural-americans-shamed-berkeley/

2019-11-09 14:19:04 UTC  

Good, fuck the lecturer.

2019-11-09 14:20:37 UTC  

Unintelligent swine, bereft of the knowledge of the methods by which the city-dwellers obtain food in the first place.