Message from @Monstrous Moonshine
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Whereas the Dissident Right embraces these differences and wants to order society according to them
The US is going to get fucked, in the process of other countries.
And Europe is a lost cause now.
It’s not justice it’s fairness
Plus they literally don’t recognize race
We live in a society.
Maybe fairness is more accurate word.
and then the actual socons (as it is a christian tradition) believe that immutable characteristics are irrelevant as we all have ablity to take ownership and responsiblity for ourselves
Because rightwing does believe in "legality" which is related to "justice".
I don't believe in religion, just for the cause reason, it's a brainwashing tactic.
Leftwing believes in and wants to support fairness.
Rightwing may believe in fairness but thinks everything by definition is fair (because free will).
Immutable characteristics are not irrelevant. This is why the true Right Wingers of that time fought against Civil Rights Laws.
Based
>Put your faith in jesus, he'll unfuck your said fucking.
---Didn't god say, that we have the right to choose, and whatever we choose, dictates the future outcome.?
If it comes to that, rightwingers may even argue that you **earned** privileges by being born a specific race. Because rightwing doesn't see unfairness in anything.
haidt's moral foundations are a good bases
Justice/injustice, Fairness/unfairness, liberty/oppression, sanctity/degradation, authority
Again, I remember Aydin Paladin having made a video about it but I didn't find it the last time I searched for it.
thats fairness nothing is free
God can't intervene in his creation.
Church, pray for his intervention.
@whiic nice straw man but yeah obviously we don’t care for just the ethnostate it’s just we always end up debating it
Whatever
@Monstrous Moonshine and that is conservativism that is dead for a good reason.
cause ya'll purity spiral into oblivion. You see the difference between ideological possession and religion is how well it maps onto the world. both right and left wing ideas are incomplete pictures.
American conservativism is radical thinking that incorporates both order and chaos to maintain order and regenerate itself.
Similar to Christianity and other religions.
'conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit'
progressivism is meaningless
Paleo or social conservatism?
progressing to what?
Will purity spiral?
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/826117-it-may-be-inferred-again-that-the-present-movement-for
This [Northern conservatism] is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn.
- Robert Lewis Dabney Chaplain, Confederate Army; Chief of Staff, Stonewall Jackson
dont know what it progresses to, it goes as fast as it needs to go, which is naturally through culture, gradually
its like working towards a computer when you start in 100AD
itll come when its time to
no radical enforcing like the Leftists want
Fords consrvativism will purity spiral
like forcing latinos to call themselves latinx
This is what is generally meant by 'progressives'
> Whig history (or Whig historiography) is an approach to historiography that presents the past as an inevitable progression towards ever greater liberty and enlightenment, culminating in modern forms of liberal democracy and constitutional monarchy.
if they eventually call themselves that by their choice in the culture, fine