Message from @Monstrous Moonshine

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2019-11-11 03:20:58 UTC  

equality is more left wing

2019-11-11 03:21:05 UTC  

and fairness

2019-11-11 03:21:05 UTC  

@D3bug_logic No it is not. The rightwing doesn't even believe injustice is a thing.

2019-11-11 03:21:13 UTC  

Rightwingers don't believe in injustice existing.

2019-11-11 03:21:18 UTC  

"Who controls the past, controls the future "
George Orwell 1984
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"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it."
George Santayana

~~~
Leftist Wants To BAN World War 2 From Being Taught in Schools.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zglkB7rotvY

2019-11-11 03:21:24 UTC  

Leftists are individualist anarchists. They seek to liberate a person from the shackles of race, gender, sexuality, age etc.

2019-11-11 03:21:33 UTC  

This is why they engage in social justice

2019-11-11 03:21:38 UTC  

yes far left wish to fall out of history

2019-11-11 03:22:00 UTC  

I worry for our future.

2019-11-11 03:22:08 UTC  

Whereas the Dissident Right embraces these differences and wants to order society according to them

2019-11-11 03:22:13 UTC  

The US is going to get fucked, in the process of other countries.

2019-11-11 03:22:26 UTC  

And Europe is a lost cause now.

2019-11-11 03:23:14 UTC  

It’s not justice it’s fairness

2019-11-11 03:23:24 UTC  

Plus they literally don’t recognize race

2019-11-11 03:23:25 UTC  

We live in a society.

2019-11-11 03:23:35 UTC  

Maybe fairness is more accurate word.

2019-11-11 03:23:41 UTC  

and then the actual socons (as it is a christian tradition) believe that immutable characteristics are irrelevant as we all have ablity to take ownership and responsiblity for ourselves

2019-11-11 03:23:53 UTC  

Because rightwing does believe in "legality" which is related to "justice".

2019-11-11 03:24:32 UTC  

I don't believe in religion, just for the cause reason, it's a brainwashing tactic.

2019-11-11 03:24:37 UTC  

Leftwing believes in and wants to support fairness.

Rightwing may believe in fairness but thinks everything by definition is fair (because free will).

2019-11-11 03:24:57 UTC  

Immutable characteristics are not irrelevant. This is why the true Right Wingers of that time fought against Civil Rights Laws.

2019-11-11 03:25:06 UTC  

Based

2019-11-11 03:25:26 UTC  

>Put your faith in jesus, he'll unfuck your said fucking.
---Didn't god say, that we have the right to choose, and whatever we choose, dictates the future outcome.?

2019-11-11 03:25:27 UTC  

If it comes to that, rightwingers may even argue that you **earned** privileges by being born a specific race. Because rightwing doesn't see unfairness in anything.

2019-11-11 03:25:30 UTC  

haidt's moral foundations are a good bases
Justice/injustice, Fairness/unfairness, liberty/oppression, sanctity/degradation, authority

2019-11-11 03:25:50 UTC  

Again, I remember Aydin Paladin having made a video about it but I didn't find it the last time I searched for it.

2019-11-11 03:25:52 UTC  

thats fairness nothing is free

2019-11-11 03:26:22 UTC  

God can't intervene in his creation.

Church, pray for his intervention.

2019-11-11 03:26:34 UTC  

This is a great book on Right Wing Traditionalism

2019-11-11 03:28:02 UTC  

@whiic nice straw man but yeah obviously we don’t care for just the ethnostate it’s just we always end up debating it

2019-11-11 03:28:20 UTC  

@snake It's your choice.

2019-11-11 03:29:13 UTC  

Whatever

2019-11-11 03:29:31 UTC  

@Monstrous Moonshine and that is conservativism that is dead for a good reason.
cause ya'll purity spiral into oblivion. You see the difference between ideological possession and religion is how well it maps onto the world. both right and left wing ideas are incomplete pictures.
American conservativism is radical thinking that incorporates both order and chaos to maintain order and regenerate itself.
Similar to Christianity and other religions.

2019-11-11 03:30:01 UTC  

'conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit'

2019-11-11 03:30:19 UTC  

progressivism is meaningless

2019-11-11 03:30:37 UTC  

Paleo or social conservatism?

2019-11-11 03:30:38 UTC  

progressing to what?

2019-11-11 03:30:44 UTC  

Will purity spiral?

2019-11-11 03:30:51 UTC  

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/826117-it-may-be-inferred-again-that-the-present-movement-for

This [Northern conservatism] is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn.

- Robert Lewis Dabney Chaplain, Confederate Army; Chief of Staff, Stonewall Jackson

2019-11-11 03:31:01 UTC  

dont know what it progresses to, it goes as fast as it needs to go, which is naturally through culture, gradually