Message from @Falco

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2019-11-11 04:05:28 UTC  

I have a specific idea for what I think about it but I don’t feel like getting into into it

2019-11-11 04:05:31 UTC  

Or maybe Hitler was further right in that sense, despite being economically center-left.

2019-11-11 04:05:49 UTC  

Difficult questions to plot on a Nolan Chart.

2019-11-11 04:06:04 UTC  

Since these radical beliefs go beyond any of the questions posed.

2019-11-11 04:07:28 UTC  

I've never understood the whole political compass bit. If someone gets +2 pts to the right and -2 pts to the left, does that make them center? Someone could answer questions inverted to that of person A and still get center, but both of which would be exact opposites.

2019-11-11 04:07:42 UTC  

in your example, yes

2019-11-11 04:07:54 UTC  

alternatively, centrists dont believe in anything

2019-11-11 04:07:57 UTC  

and that isnt the case

2019-11-11 04:08:11 UTC  

they think things that are left AND right

2019-11-11 04:08:14 UTC  

@whiic I don’t view it in terms of justice or purity

2019-11-11 04:08:36 UTC  

In fact my views are probably terrifying to most people

2019-11-11 04:08:45 UTC  

im pro social programs, but not TOO MANY, because i understand people need a fire under their asses to actually do something

2019-11-11 04:08:49 UTC  

In this server

2019-11-11 04:09:00 UTC  

so im left and right , so technically centrist on those issues

2019-11-11 04:10:15 UTC  

a right winger would say no social programs at all, and a left winger would say 'nobody should be pressured into anything'

2019-11-11 04:10:58 UTC  

radical right would say 'kill the people that cant survive' and radical left would say 'everyone give your money to the government so nobody has to be pressured and everything can be taken care of'

2019-11-11 04:11:57 UTC  

it seems kind of weird with the political compass in that sense

2019-11-11 04:12:18 UTC  

because you cant really be libertarian and heavily economically left

2019-11-11 04:12:53 UTC  

whereas you CAN be libertarian radicall economic right because youre essentially saying 'finders keepers'

2019-11-11 04:13:17 UTC  

just odd concepts

2019-11-11 04:13:24 UTC  

The Political Compass asks some weird questions. Some of which are worded strange, and others that don't seem like they would change your red dot at all, no matter what your answer is.

2019-11-11 04:13:42 UTC  

also the political compass was made by someone

2019-11-11 04:13:47 UTC  

so its their perspective

2019-11-11 04:13:56 UTC  

so it isnt 100% accurate

2019-11-11 04:14:06 UTC  

@whiic the way I view it, Nation states, ethnicities are just super organisms working for their collective survival. This is why you have behaviors like charity and selfishness, of self sacrifice of the greater good.

If I were to be extremely reductive women are inside of the hierarchy as biological factors and men as resources bots and biological ammo. Families are the building block of this and extend through community and nation.

Culture, language, ethnics, government, currency, morals and religion are all just parts of the machine to keep the group going. Merely survival strategies, codes of behavior and preferences.

When living around your family and people you’re living in a genetic matrix or mesh and all of those genes and history come out. Being born and raised in one area with those people make you into who you are.

2019-11-11 04:14:44 UTC  

I don’t believe in god or a higher power, we just live on a mud ball and are animals like everything else

2019-11-11 04:14:57 UTC  

Civilization a extension of tribes

2019-11-11 04:15:25 UTC  

Borders mark gene pools from one another

2019-11-11 04:17:44 UTC  

how nihilistic

2019-11-11 04:22:16 UTC  

Depends how you look at it

2019-11-11 04:23:19 UTC  

Also, land and the planet is just a resource for us to collect things

2019-11-11 04:23:33 UTC  

Metals, air, water, food, good dirt

2019-11-11 04:23:52 UTC  

Oil, coal, natural gas

2019-11-11 04:25:34 UTC  

@snake Well, that's really outside of left-to-right values (purity vs fairness). It seems your ethnonationalism is exclusively on individualist(libertarian)-collectivist(authoritarian) spectrum if favor of authoritarianism.

2019-11-11 04:25:59 UTC  

And when you treat ethnicity and the state as super organisms to be served, you are pretty much a fascist.

2019-11-11 04:26:25 UTC  

No I would disagree with that, because fascism needs the state to execute it

2019-11-11 04:26:50 UTC  

Well, aren't you in favor of ethno**states**?

2019-11-11 04:26:56 UTC  

I don’t think you need a authoritarian government to do anything, in fact most of the time the type of government is what they picked

2019-11-11 04:27:03 UTC  

Somehow you forgot your own ideology of being a statist.

2019-11-11 04:27:26 UTC  

Well I’m in favor of them yeah, but Ethnic nationalism is like gravity to us

2019-11-11 04:27:33 UTC  

Yeah well I’m fucking tired as hell