Message from @Falco

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2019-11-11 04:01:02 UTC  

Cuz the left is already occupied

2019-11-11 04:01:15 UTC  

But these things are never really defined or connected with each other

2019-11-11 04:01:26 UTC  

once you get into ethnic questions, and socialism questions

2019-11-11 04:01:33 UTC  

youve gone full retard and are the same to me

2019-11-11 04:01:38 UTC  

so

2019-11-11 04:01:55 UTC  

thats 'point of i-dont-care return'

2019-11-11 04:02:26 UTC  

after that point right and left doesnt dissolve, i just see it as the same bad idea thing

2019-11-11 04:02:27 UTC  

Well I guess a good way to evaluate if you have leftist or rightist frame of mind is your values:
as an ethnonationalist, do you value more
A) ethnic purity of white race, or
B) fairness toward white race?

2019-11-11 04:03:12 UTC  

correct question

2019-11-11 04:03:34 UTC  

Because ethnonationalism does exist within leftist (nazbol), centrist (Hitler) and rightist (Christ Cantwell) frameworks.

2019-11-11 04:03:48 UTC  

Fairness in what since? Purity in what since? Purity in that I want people to be 100% white ? Fairness in that I want whites to have the same right that I see others have?

2019-11-11 04:03:55 UTC  

Tough, I want to say both almost

2019-11-11 04:04:08 UTC  

I’m not a fucking Nazbol

2019-11-11 04:04:19 UTC  

You could even ask:
A) Equal opportunity for all.
B) Some are more equal than others.

2019-11-11 04:04:38 UTC  

@snake Well, I'd guess you are a ethnat centrist (like Hitler).

2019-11-11 04:04:58 UTC  

If neither ethnic justice nor ethnic purity are at the core of it.

2019-11-11 04:05:28 UTC  

I have a specific idea for what I think about it but I don’t feel like getting into into it

2019-11-11 04:05:31 UTC  

Or maybe Hitler was further right in that sense, despite being economically center-left.

2019-11-11 04:05:49 UTC  

Difficult questions to plot on a Nolan Chart.

2019-11-11 04:06:04 UTC  

Since these radical beliefs go beyond any of the questions posed.

2019-11-11 04:07:28 UTC  

I've never understood the whole political compass bit. If someone gets +2 pts to the right and -2 pts to the left, does that make them center? Someone could answer questions inverted to that of person A and still get center, but both of which would be exact opposites.

2019-11-11 04:07:42 UTC  

in your example, yes

2019-11-11 04:07:54 UTC  

alternatively, centrists dont believe in anything

2019-11-11 04:07:57 UTC  

and that isnt the case

2019-11-11 04:08:11 UTC  

they think things that are left AND right

2019-11-11 04:08:14 UTC  

@whiic I don’t view it in terms of justice or purity

2019-11-11 04:08:36 UTC  

In fact my views are probably terrifying to most people

2019-11-11 04:08:45 UTC  

im pro social programs, but not TOO MANY, because i understand people need a fire under their asses to actually do something

2019-11-11 04:08:49 UTC  

In this server

2019-11-11 04:09:00 UTC  

so im left and right , so technically centrist on those issues

2019-11-11 04:10:15 UTC  

a right winger would say no social programs at all, and a left winger would say 'nobody should be pressured into anything'

2019-11-11 04:10:58 UTC  

radical right would say 'kill the people that cant survive' and radical left would say 'everyone give your money to the government so nobody has to be pressured and everything can be taken care of'

2019-11-11 04:11:57 UTC  

it seems kind of weird with the political compass in that sense

2019-11-11 04:12:18 UTC  

because you cant really be libertarian and heavily economically left

2019-11-11 04:12:53 UTC  

whereas you CAN be libertarian radicall economic right because youre essentially saying 'finders keepers'

2019-11-11 04:13:17 UTC  

just odd concepts

2019-11-11 04:13:24 UTC  

The Political Compass asks some weird questions. Some of which are worded strange, and others that don't seem like they would change your red dot at all, no matter what your answer is.

2019-11-11 04:13:42 UTC  

also the political compass was made by someone

2019-11-11 04:13:47 UTC  

so its their perspective

2019-11-11 04:13:56 UTC  

so it isnt 100% accurate

2019-11-11 04:14:06 UTC  

@whiic the way I view it, Nation states, ethnicities are just super organisms working for their collective survival. This is why you have behaviors like charity and selfishness, of self sacrifice of the greater good.

If I were to be extremely reductive women are inside of the hierarchy as biological factors and men as resources bots and biological ammo. Families are the building block of this and extend through community and nation.

Culture, language, ethnics, government, currency, morals and religion are all just parts of the machine to keep the group going. Merely survival strategies, codes of behavior and preferences.

When living around your family and people you’re living in a genetic matrix or mesh and all of those genes and history come out. Being born and raised in one area with those people make you into who you are.