the way god meant it to be

If your goal is, lets say, to put freedom above all, for example.
Is it ok to - on your way towards said freedom - infringe on some freedom, or not?

You can interchange "freedom" with anything else

When WN say they are not nazis, they mean they are "the good, American kind of nazi".

Policy wise, what is the difference?

AFAIK, same game, different teams.

So basically, my goal is a ethnostate, would it be ok to hurt...

@lungfish In 1943, 90% of Americans said they'd rather lose the war than end segregation. Were they all Nazis?

White people? Optics?

Or people in general?

(And most of WN would probably say USA should have partaken in WW2 so they aren't exactly anti-German-type-of-Nazi, either.)

@Monstrous Moonshine I will request a source on that since I've never heard it before

Sure

They would have preferred if Ameri-Nazis didn't fight German-Nazis.

And I'm willing to accept edgy sources, it doesn't have to be in the New York Times

If your goal is the ethnostate, then the question would be this: is it ok to infringe on the construction of an ethnostate and temporarily increase the number of other ethnic demographics in order to eventually have an ethnostate?

https://muse.jhu.edu/book/30108

Chapter 3, Page 81 @lungfish

But they are totally not nazis even when they are ethnonationalist AND socialist AND authoritarian AND culturally pro-censorshit, AND against free speech AND Jews.

Yeah sure

Otherwise they are nothing alike to Hitler's Germany.

Ah yes, once again the Tribe is providing the best WN statistics

Ok, so then you consider the goal to be above the path

I’m not seeing a problem

Use libgen to pirate a free version @lungfish

Looking into it now

Oh, yeah, this is behind paywall. Can you quote the relevant portion?

Since you think the goal is more important, this means you are likely to break your principles, which means you're unprincipled, since you would even break your promise of an ethnostate temporarily

Sorry, I know I'm asking a lot, I'm just curious

And maybe now you understand why I consider so many WN's to be fools

They think the ends justify the means, which as I see it only results in a straying away from the goal

Whether I agree with their goal or not

I thought you said it was the opposite of the ends justify the means

@lungfish

The opposite of it is "path = goal"

You don't agree with that idea, since you said you would increase other ethnic demographics if that furthers your goal of the ethnostate

"90% of the American public said they'd rather loose the war than give full equality to the American Negro"

To be honest I haven’t really thought about it that deeply

Most people haven't, that's why I asked

Also being earraped in VC

Also, when their goal is white ethnostate (with less minorities than there *already* is, meaning closed borders is not adequate solution), and path is unimportant, you must take it with grain of salt when "Genocide Not Required, Voluntary Self-Deportations and Encouragement".