Coinciding with the start of the Neolithic.

The flood myths are definitely something that makes me a lot less sceptical

And agriculture has been more or less necessary for advanced civilisation.

@leavethisbotnet of?

My favourite conundrum

https://infogalactic.com/info/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

Many of the myths do talk about a civilization that was swept away by the (usually) flood

It's no coincidence that major civilisations always emerged around fertile rivers. The Nile, Tigris and Euphrates, whatever the Chinese one is called.

I do like that site Sq.

12,000 years old.

Impressive.

@leavethisbotnet They do, but I wouldn't put too much stock in how the myths assess their own ancestry.

Medieval artists were depicting scenes from the Bronze Age Bible with everyone in medieval armour

The Sumerian King List goes back over 200,000 years.

I'm not convinced these people actually had a concept of pre-civilisation.

So whilst there may have been oral traditions of a flood or higher sea levels.

The actual specifics of how people lived were lost.

Just saying

Most of red sea used to be land before end of Y.D.

sahara did not exist

To my knowledge the Sahara cycles.

Well ok, _in Y.D._ it didn't exist

Agriculture as far as we know has only been enabled for the past 12-11,000 years.

Coinciding to the end of the Y.D

Which itself lasted just over 1,300 years which isn't long when we're talking major scale.

the issue is, there's very little archeological research being done in sahara

or on the seafloor of red sea

I'd imagine both environments would be somewhat difficult to excavate.

Yeah. Which means that the _as far as we know_ is ... limited

In the former you'd need a *lead*, you can't just dig up millions of square kilometres of sand and *hope* you find something no evidence exists for.

In the latter... it's covered by water. And still no leads.

there are the eye of sahara theories

and the south america theories

which do not seem entirely unplausible

But are the theories based on what there is actually indicative theories for, or just speculation based on what *could've* been.

The fact the Sahara was not always a desert does not mean the land was suitable for farming.

Most land wasn't until the earth warmed up *following* the Y.D

And even when we invented agriculture it took another five thousand years for the first city to emerge.

And civilisation generally.

Assuming that length of time before the Y.D you'd end up back in the Ice Age.