Message from @fvriovs

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2019-11-18 11:58:02 UTC  

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2019-11-18 11:58:04 UTC  

The actual specifics of how people lived were lost.

2019-11-18 11:58:05 UTC  

Just saying

2019-11-18 11:58:08 UTC  

Most of red sea used to be land before end of Y.D.

2019-11-18 11:58:26 UTC  

sahara did not exist

2019-11-18 11:58:39 UTC  

To my knowledge the Sahara cycles.

2019-11-18 11:59:26 UTC  

Well ok, _in Y.D._ it didn't exist

2019-11-18 11:59:28 UTC  

Agriculture as far as we know has only been enabled for the past 12-11,000 years.

2019-11-18 11:59:39 UTC  

Coinciding to the end of the Y.D

2019-11-18 11:59:52 UTC  

Which itself lasted just over 1,300 years which isn't long when we're talking major scale.

2019-11-18 12:00:02 UTC  

the issue is, there's very little archeological research being done in sahara

2019-11-18 12:00:09 UTC  

or on the seafloor of red sea

2019-11-18 12:00:21 UTC  

I'd imagine both environments would be somewhat difficult to excavate.

2019-11-18 12:00:41 UTC  

Yeah. Which means that the _as far as we know_ is ... limited

2019-11-18 12:00:44 UTC  

In the former you'd need a *lead*, you can't just dig up millions of square kilometres of sand and *hope* you find something no evidence exists for.

2019-11-18 12:01:00 UTC  

In the latter... it's covered by water. And still no leads.

2019-11-18 12:01:05 UTC  

there are the eye of sahara theories

2019-11-18 12:01:16 UTC  

and the south america theories

2019-11-18 12:01:33 UTC  

which do not seem entirely unplausible

2019-11-18 12:01:33 UTC  

But are the theories based on what there is actually indicative theories for, or just speculation based on what *could've* been.

2019-11-18 12:01:46 UTC  

The fact the Sahara was not always a desert does not mean the land was suitable for farming.

2019-11-18 12:01:58 UTC  

Most land wasn't until the earth warmed up *following* the Y.D

2019-11-18 12:02:22 UTC  

And even when we invented agriculture it took another five thousand years for the first city to emerge.

2019-11-18 12:02:27 UTC  

And civilisation generally.

2019-11-18 12:02:36 UTC  

Assuming that length of time before the Y.D you'd end up back in the Ice Age.

2019-11-18 12:03:11 UTC  

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2019-11-18 12:03:16 UTC  

There are maps that show the Antarcitca, before it was discovered in 17th (?) century.
And the way Antarctica is shown there corresponds to how it would've looked before end of Y.D.

2019-11-18 12:03:26 UTC  

It's an interesting theory I'll grant you and perhaps humans did make some strides immediately in the warming period following the Ice Age which was cut off by the Y.D

2019-11-18 12:03:40 UTC  

maps that are allegedly copied from older maps

2019-11-18 12:03:44 UTC  

from alexandria

2019-11-18 12:03:44 UTC  

But it's not enough time to enable them to create a civilisation as I expect you're imagining it.

2019-11-18 12:04:15 UTC  

I mean for one the world didn't become warm enough for agriculture immediately after the ice age as we defined it ended

2019-11-18 12:04:30 UTC  

it continued to warm until the Y.D when it rapidly cooled for 1,300 years and ever since has been more or less continuously warming

2019-11-18 12:05:04 UTC  

And only then we did we get agriculture on any significant scale. And 5-6,000 years later, urban settlement like Eridu, Ur, and so forth.

2019-11-18 12:05:09 UTC  

I find it exceptionally hard to explain maps of Antarctica as it was in Y.D. without a civilization that existed at that period.

2019-11-18 12:05:33 UTC  

It wouldn't be the first time a landmass was added to a map that didn't exist.

2019-11-18 12:05:50 UTC  

Others speculate that the Ottoman map I think you're referencing actually depicts South America.

2019-11-18 12:06:15 UTC  

Old Worlders weren't even aware of the New World until 1000 AD-ish.

2019-11-18 12:06:27 UTC  

I find it suspicious that it would _randomly_ be so similar to Y.D. era Antarctica

2019-11-18 12:06:34 UTC  

And even then it wasn't widely known to exist until the dawn of the 16th century

2019-11-18 12:07:25 UTC  

Could you show me?