the number of blood thirsty, cold-stone killers is dramatically fewer BECAUSE of punishment

Also, making ex-cons totally ostracised will push them to reoffend

they can't reoffend if they're dead or in prison for life

^

The system is stupid in how it perpetuates what it is meant to correct

yeah because they let people out

only in certain cases

you cannot treat everyone the same

nor can you expect dropping the rules for those in the majority won't have horriffic consequences by normalizinbg the fringe

@Death in June So you would accept life sentence for a toothpaste you accidentally carried out of the shop ?

everything you see today PROVES this theory

no

Your maximalism and lack of nuance is peculiar

I mean if punishment doesnt work why does torture?

when did i ever say there should be a life sentence for stealing toothpaste

nuance is a luxury

survival is paramount

Lack of nuance is how we get commies

no survival? your theory doesn't amount to shit

lack of nuance leads to fascism

not communism

get it right

prisons are ineffective and don't even scare career-criminals

They fail at their task

that is the MINORITY

prisons ARE effective to deter the MAJORITY

@Uksio they're effective, they're just not effective for everyone

Heck, german gypsies are looking forward to visit comfy german jail cells for pickpocketing

again, you cannot repeat the mistake of the LEFT

They're not effective for that subset of society, not all of it

they too ignore the extreme fringe

THOSE are the MOST dangerous

if you lower the bar for all, they become PREDATORS

with those you seek to 'help' becoming their PREY

Norway and Switzerland rehabilitate prisoners
Teach them some trade and make them part of society again

It can be done

recidivism rates among violent criminals are still high in those countries

and those countries are of course white

norway and switzerland doesn't HAVE particularly violent criminals

because they have FEW poor

Exactly