Message from @ManAnimal
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Not for the jails it is not
you'd be fighting for survival
Civilisation and wealth abundance make crimes less, not prisons
i don't really care about the punishment aspect in this instance i just want them permanently removed from society
the number of blood thirsty, cold-stone killers is dramatically fewer BECAUSE of punishment
Also, making ex-cons totally ostracised will push them to reoffend
they can't reoffend if they're dead or in prison for life
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The system is stupid in how it perpetuates what it is meant to correct
yeah because they let people out
only in certain cases
you cannot treat everyone the same
nor can you expect dropping the rules for those in the majority won't have horriffic consequences by normalizinbg the fringe
@Death in June So you would accept life sentence for a toothpaste you accidentally carried out of the shop ?
everything you see today PROVES this theory
no
Your maximalism and lack of nuance is peculiar
I mean if punishment doesnt work why does torture?
when did i ever say there should be a life sentence for stealing toothpaste
nuance is a luxury
Lack of nuance is how we get commies
no survival? your theory doesn't amount to shit
lack of nuance leads to fascism
not communism
get it right
prisons are ineffective and don't even scare career-criminals
They fail at their task
that is the MINORITY
prisons ARE effective to deter the MAJORITY
@Uksio they're effective, they're just not effective for everyone
Heck, german gypsies are looking forward to visit comfy german jail cells for pickpocketing
again, you cannot repeat the mistake of the LEFT
They're not effective for that subset of society, not all of it
they too ignore the extreme fringe
THOSE are the MOST dangerous
if you lower the bar for all, they become PREDATORS
with those you seek to 'help' becoming their PREY
Norway and Switzerland rehabilitate prisoners
Teach them some trade and make them part of society again
It can be done
recidivism rates among violent criminals are still high in those countries