Personally, I refer to myself as "pro-life, but not anti-abortion," or as Dave Rubin puts it: "begrudgingly pro-choice." Meaning I believe in prevention and alternatives with abortion being plan Z and I think if it must be done, the sooner the better, with various reasons why sentience, pain, and viability are reasonable philosophical and scientific cut-offs.

Ok.
7 months.

6 months.

7 months too they can survive

5 months.

@Chuckler I'm working on it

Anything pre-sentience I don't see as immoral cuz I'm not an Evangelical or a Catholic

I don't see a difference between pre sentience and pre memory

Avoid having someone spaff in your muff might be a good step

so 3 years and younger is fine

@Scale_e I don't care how many months. The person who has to carry the child should be the one to choose. Noone should be allowed to make that choice for them. I don't have to like their choice and we can agree on that, but rights are more important than my feelings.

@Marushia Dark when is the definitive absolute point at which a human becomes sentient

Sentience refers to its ability to be aware of itself as an entity

Pop em all on the chopping block it's all the same

scientists say that life begins at conception

^

so there is that

@Jack of Trades So basically, the mother has the ability to determine when that thing is a person?

None of you have passed the turing test tbh

Shim, IIRC, I link to it in the article (part 2) but I can't recall of the top of my head, I wanna say 12 weeks

@Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU no they don't

Life is continuoud

It never starts or stops, it's ongoing

I am unsure if many are truly sentient even now

@Chuckler Isn't that to determine if an AI is close enough to human?

Yes you failed

key word "close enough"

If a human isnt close to a human is it human?

Shut up

faggot

How do we see mirrors if our eyes arnt real

But then who was phone?

@Scale_e no, have you not been listening? It doesn't matter if it's a person. I grant you that it's a person. The child could be 5, dying of kidney failure and you can't expect me to give up my kidney to save my child. Youre confusing moral virtue for moral obligation

Also how can you make a festus take a turning test? Shove a computer up some cunt's vagina?

@ShimShamWhamBam this is why im not giving Will Smith my money

From the article I cited:

@ShimShamWhamBam clever wordplay

Need spaff into open grave during a seance

@Marushia Dark well?

It gets the ju ju going

So, as per our current scientific and philosophical understanding of consciousness, anything before 12 weeks is permissible, IMO