You talk of your "superstitions"

@Win Roe understand what? Noone cares if it's human. That's a red herring

@Chuckler no I don't

Does each egg and sperm count as human or only when combined?

Read it again

Yes, Roe

@shadow of the sun Brush your teeth

@Jack of Trades You’re right. You can’t be compelled to give up a kidney for someone.
If they die, it’s tragic, but you aren’t responsible. You did not take an action.

If you, a doctor, provide an abortion, you are taking an action. That action directly results in the death of a person.

Morally, you should not take that action except to protect the life of the mother.

@Jack of Trades I'm responding directly to maru

Maru doesn't understand my point

Jack of TradesToday at 04:26
@Chuckler doesn't matter. We don't make laws based on superstitions and they don't want to start making laws based on mine.

What is your point, Roe?

@Scale_e sure, but you're fulfilling the request of the mother. They're the ones who choose to give up their body.

@Jack of Trades .....e laws based on superstitions and they don't want to start making laws based on mine.

You're suggesting she's got to.

SUPERSTITIONS...... YOURS

@Chuckler in regards to religion, not superstition

My point is that sentience is a nonsense start point, it's as arbitrary as when memory develops which is on average 4 years of age.

Qualify the difference

It would be immoral to make a Muslim live by the rules of a jew and vice versa

My point is that there isn't a significant difference @Chuckler

It would be better to find the common ground between and go from there

@Chuckler fucking horses isn't ac superstition

You follow a horse fucking religion?

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I think roman Catholics will burn in hell for their opulence but I dont go around putting my 1578 points on my local cathedral

You might see how you have painted yourself into a corner there @Jack of Trades

Scale, it's only a violation of "first do no harm" if the child is legally its own life form with rights, which the entire crux of the issue is: when does that occur scientifically and philosophically? If it's not a life with rights under those conditions, the doctor isn't doing anything wrong

@Chuckler I dunno, do you want to base laws on my religion or not?

You're missing the point

@Marushia Dark oi in iron man 2 didnt tony make a new element for his chest thingy , not vibranium?

that element WAS vibranium

Mommy you arnt making nearly as good an argument as you think you are

This is true.
Except, life isn’t the proper term, it’s “person”.
A fish is alive. We’re allowed to kill fish.

Arguably eka-bismuth, as I describe in my Black Panther article

Personally, I don’t know when a fetus becomes a person.

Not in new york your not @Scale_e

it was not it was coconutium

> Except, life isn’t the proper term, it’s “person”.

Fair point

Maru really doesn't seem to understand

Life =/= Humanity.