@Chuckler how dare you address me mum

I wish Maru would answer my important question

@Marushia Dark I don't see why you should use such an odd definition of "life"

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@Chuckler hm?

Yes

@Chuckler yes what

Sorry last message was 4 u

Arrrgggg

What beliefs?

what beliefs mum?

I mean do we really have to define what counts as human legally before yall understand?

You talk of your "superstitions"

@Win Roe understand what? Noone cares if it's human. That's a red herring

@Chuckler no I don't

Does each egg and sperm count as human or only when combined?

Read it again

Yes, Roe

@shadow of the sun Brush your teeth

@Jack of Trades You’re right. You can’t be compelled to give up a kidney for someone.
If they die, it’s tragic, but you aren’t responsible. You did not take an action.

If you, a doctor, provide an abortion, you are taking an action. That action directly results in the death of a person.

Morally, you should not take that action except to protect the life of the mother.

@Jack of Trades I'm responding directly to maru

Maru doesn't understand my point

Jack of TradesToday at 04:26
@Chuckler doesn't matter. We don't make laws based on superstitions and they don't want to start making laws based on mine.

What is your point, Roe?

@Scale_e sure, but you're fulfilling the request of the mother. They're the ones who choose to give up their body.

@Jack of Trades .....e laws based on superstitions and they don't want to start making laws based on mine.

You're suggesting she's got to.

SUPERSTITIONS...... YOURS

@Chuckler in regards to religion, not superstition

My point is that sentience is a nonsense start point, it's as arbitrary as when memory develops which is on average 4 years of age.

Qualify the difference

It would be immoral to make a Muslim live by the rules of a jew and vice versa

My point is that there isn't a significant difference @Chuckler

It would be better to find the common ground between and go from there

@Chuckler fucking horses isn't ac superstition

You follow a horse fucking religion?

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I think roman Catholics will burn in hell for their opulence but I dont go around putting my 1578 points on my local cathedral

You might see how you have painted yourself into a corner there @Jack of Trades

Scale, it's only a violation of "first do no harm" if the child is legally its own life form with rights, which the entire crux of the issue is: when does that occur scientifically and philosophically? If it's not a life with rights under those conditions, the doctor isn't doing anything wrong

@Chuckler I dunno, do you want to base laws on my religion or not?