Message from @Legitimate [OCE]

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2019-01-18 04:37:06 UTC  

That leads you to the truth

2019-01-18 04:37:09 UTC  

i can agree with that

2019-01-18 04:37:17 UTC  

You really don't need to be exposed to a group of people saying, "Build the wall!" over and over to know immigration, nor do you need to argue with basic shitlibs who want no borders whatsoever on the basis of their moral view to study immigration.

2019-01-18 04:37:27 UTC  

Yeah

2019-01-18 04:37:36 UTC  

I know what mainstream politics has to offer and it's all shit

2019-01-18 04:37:57 UTC  

None of it leads to the world I want to live in

2019-01-18 04:38:05 UTC  

That's why so much of my argumentation is, "Why do you support this?" since it's always about someone's moral motivations to support a policy.

2019-01-18 04:38:41 UTC  

The only variation is in their central motivations because they all use the same arguments over and over.

2019-01-18 04:39:17 UTC  

Yeah they aren't very original

2019-01-18 04:39:20 UTC  

whats your opinion of the current state of the govt rn

2019-01-18 04:39:29 UTC  

It's unfixable.

2019-01-18 04:39:31 UTC  

^

2019-01-18 04:39:49 UTC  

There is too much corruption, too much power

2019-01-18 04:40:07 UTC  

The US government has been subverted on every single level

2019-01-18 04:40:37 UTC  

The size of government has never been decreased, only increased and there is nothing to stop that from happening forever except a revolution or massive crash.

2019-01-18 04:40:46 UTC  

Trump is doing *some* good stuff but he's also doing some harmful things, and he isn't even the most powerful person really

2019-01-18 04:41:12 UTC  

I've been mostly disappointed with Trump since I have a few key issues I do not budge on.

2019-01-18 04:41:19 UTC  

Yeah same

2019-01-18 04:41:26 UTC  

what are those key issues?

2019-01-18 04:41:36 UTC  

Namely his flip-flopping around immigration where he isn't as extreme as people hope or fear.

2019-01-18 04:41:55 UTC  

Immigration, middle east stuff

2019-01-18 04:42:32 UTC  

how do you feel about the entire “russia” allegations

2019-01-18 04:45:00 UTC  

It's pretty much just character defamation

2019-01-18 04:45:41 UTC  

I've never done a deep dive into it, but my outside glance is that some things are really bad optics and look bad on Trump, the rest are extreme slander and libel by a powerful class of people bent on destruction.

2019-01-18 04:45:46 UTC  

Trump is more in bed with Israel than with Russia, by far

2019-01-18 04:46:05 UTC  

They just repeat it until enough people believe it

2019-01-18 04:46:12 UTC  

With no evidence

2019-01-18 04:46:27 UTC  

The MSM haven't cared about the truth for decades

2019-01-18 04:47:25 UTC  

The fact that they haven't provided more evidence is evidence that it has no basis

2019-01-18 04:47:38 UTC  

Didn't the CEO of CNN or something admit it was a lie?

2019-01-18 04:48:24 UTC  

tbh i havent looked into too much so i dont really know how much they have or if they have anything on trump

2019-01-18 04:48:28 UTC  

The Project Veritas tapes where he said, "Who cares if it's true, it gives us good ratings?" or something similar?

2019-01-18 04:48:42 UTC  

i wouldnt put it past media tho

2019-01-18 04:48:52 UTC  

producer not CEO

2019-01-18 04:49:18 UTC  

wild ive never seen that

2019-01-18 04:49:50 UTC  

The source video is from Project Veritas, they're very popular among Republican circles.

2019-01-18 04:50:08 UTC  

They have undercover reporters secretly tape different people into admitting things.

2019-01-18 04:50:36 UTC  

Yeah

2019-01-18 04:50:53 UTC  

They uncover people admitting shit really easily

2019-01-18 04:51:26 UTC  

here is the full clip https://youtu.be/jdP8TiKY8dE